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    Možda bude dobar lore.
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    Sažetak iz Game Informera. Nasumično razdvojio tekst u svrhu očuvanja zdravog razuma.
    -Releasing 2013 for PC/Mac
    -Developed by ZeniMax Online Studios
    -MMORPG
    -250 Person Team
    -Started development in 2007

    -"This time, saving the world from the awakening of ancient evil is only the beginning. What happens when hundreds or thousands of prophesied heroes all think that they should be Emperor?"
    -The game is fully voice acted
    -Third person perspective
    -The game uses a hotbar to activate skills like other traditional MMOs
    -Visually it looks like other Hero Engine MMOs like SWTOR
    -The general art style is kind of like RIFT or Everquest 2
    -You can't be a werewolf or vampire

    -Crafting, alchemy, and soul stones will exist in an unrevealed form
    -There will be Daedric Princes like Molag Bal, the primary antagonist, and Vaermina, "whose sphere of influence extends to the dream world and the nightmares of mortals", along with some unnamed others
    -Constellations will be in the game a la Mundus stones (which work like guardian stones) and also give the answer to things like block puzzles where you step on the blocks in a certain order
    -Tons of towns ranging from Imperial City, Windhelm, Daggerfall, Sentinel, Mournhold, Ebonheart, Elden Root, Shornhelm, Evermore, Riften, and a lot more
    -Radiant AI will not be present

    -There will be mounts, but no flying mounts
    -Fast travel exists in the game in the form of wayshrines, which are also your ressurection point, and you can teleport from one wayshrine to any other wayshrine you have already visited
    -There most likely won't be dragons
    -Sneaking will be in the game, but how it is implemented is undecided
    -They're not talking about pets right now
    -There will be no player housing
    -There will be no NPC romances or marriage

    -"It needs to be comfortable for people who are coming in from a typical massively multiplayer game that has the same control mechanisms, but it also has to appeal to Skyrim players."
    -Features most of Tamriel including Skyrim, Morrowind, Summerset Isle, and Elseweyr.
    -"Not all provinces are included in their entirety; Zenimax Online is keeping large areas inaccessible to save them for use as expansion content. Nonetheless, every major area is represented to some extent."
    -As an example, Windhelm is fully implemented, but Winterhold and the mages' college won't be in at launch.

    -There are three player factions:
    --Ebonheart Pact: The Nords, Dunmer, and Argoninans
    --Aldmeri Dominion: Altmer, Bosmer, and Khajit
    --Daggerfall Covenant: Bretons, Redguard, and Orcs
    -"Recreateing the freedom Elder Scrolls players expect within the World of Warcraft-style mechanics Zenimax Online is using for this MMO would be impossible without changing the way that players interact with the world."
    -As such, the game uses a hubless design
    -For example, you don't necessarily pick up a quest to do the following, but if you kill all the necromancers in an undead barrow, a shade you free at the end will reward you.
    -However, to help you find these events, various NPCs you talk to will tell you where they are happening and put a marker pointing them on your map, which is obviously totally different than receiving a quest.
    -Not all quests will have NPCs that indicate where they are

    -The game uses MMORPG genre standards such as classes, experience points, and other traditional MMORPG progression mechanics, but they try to present it "around the core fantasy presented by traditiona Elder Scrolls games" such as traveling around and righting wrongs or seeking riches
    -The game world is very large relative to Skyrim
    -You can explore almost anything you can see

    -the game is set 1000 years in the past
    -You can't master every discipline
    -The imperials are an enemy to all three factions, lead by the noble Tharn family and the King of Worms, Mannimarco, and are hatching a plot to take over all of Tamriel
    -But BEHOLD, Mannicmarco is scheming with Daedric prince Molag Bal to take over the world behind the Tharn's back
    -Also, your soul has already been stolen by Molag Bal, which is the reason you can come back from death over and over again, and the starting plot is that you're fighting Molag Bal to get your soul back from him
    -Hitting the level cap takes about 120 hours
    -Each faction has their own leveling content

    -An example quest is the story of Camlorn, where you have to stop evil werewolves who have their eyes set on conquest. First, you have to do a "standard MMO kill and collection quest" to sto ghosts from attacking some mages and soldiers. The ghosts are reliving a battle that the werewolf leader was in. You summon a ghost to find out what's going on, and the ghost tells you to wear her dead husband's armor to re-experience the battle he died in. You then get transported hundreds of years into the past to fight this battle. During this battle, you can choose to save the dead man's wife or to pursue the Werewolf leader. ZeniMax chooses to save the man's wife, who then tells you that the Werewolf leader is weak to fire. This information is helpful when you fight him, but you don't actually need to do this quest before fighting the werewolf leader if you don't want to. Basically, you can skip parts of quest chains if you want, but you get some benefit for playing the whole thing. Also, whenever you go back to the town you just saved, everything there hails you as a hero.

    -The game features three faction PvP where you fight to take over keeps and use trebuchets and other siege weapons to help do it. At the high end, you can have 100 v 100 battles. There are also farms and mines you can try to take over. Mots of this happens in Cyrodiil where your goal is to take over and hold the Imperial City to get faction wide bonuses for it. If you have played Dark Age of Camelot, this probably sounds familiar. For those who haven't, essentially the entire zone is a giant PvP area will all sorts of points of interest.
    -The most accomplished PvP player on your faction becomes emperor whenever you take over the capital
    -When you take over Cyrodiil, you will be able to adventure in it as a hostile city a la Kvatch
    -The game will have raids and heroic modes for its dungeons as end game content in addition to faction PvP
    -There is also balanced PvP for people who prefer eSports

    -The game will also have high end public dungeons
    -Public dungeons are essentially instances that aren't actually instanced, so anyone can be in them, so imagine a World of Warcraft dungeon that featured everyone on the server in the area instead of just your party
    -There are standard instanced dungeons as well
    -Back on the topic of the skillbar, you have a limited number of skills you can use at any given time, and can change them whenever you're out of combat
    -The number of skills is equal to (paraphrase) "a light and heavy attack with your current weapon that take up the first two slots, a few more spells related to your class, and an ultimate in the last slot".
    -The ultimate is used once you gain enough finesse, which is earned by doing well in combat

    -You also get a bonus loot chest if you're soloing and max your finesse, and you can also build finesse by comboing with other players
    -For example, a rogue can put oil on the ground that a mage can set on fire
    -A fighter can also spin in the firestorm a mage puts down, which sends out fireballs
    -If you've seen Guild Wars 2 videos, the above will seem familiar
    -You can't combo with the abilities of enemy players though, so if an enemy faction player drops an oil slick, you can't set it on fire

    -The Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood will be presented, but in what form isn't detailed as their contnet is hard to recreate in an MMO setting
    -NPCs will try to work together and use player like behavior when fighting you, and (at least to my understanding) have stamina as well
    -They want the AI to be good, so instead of enemies in a dungeon sitting around and waiting to be pulled, you will be attacked by the entire room and they will try to react to how you are playing
    -The claim was not demo'ed to Game Informer
    -You destroy dark anchors to gain reputation with the Fighter's Guild. They are large hooks that fall from the sky pseudorandomly and have Daedric guardians next to them. They are easier to kill with a group, and once destroyed, everyone who participated gets a reputation boost with the Fighter's Guild, and eventually nets you rewards like new skills and abilities.

    -The combat model will not be real time due to latency
    -The combat is based around a stamina bar which you can use to sprint, block, interrupt, and break incapacitating effects
    -Blocking is the primary focus of these abilities, and can do things like stopping the secondary effects of attacks such as an ice spell slowing you
    -Stamina also applies to PvP, so stamina management (and wearing down your enemy's stamina) is important, as your crowd control abilities might be on a long cooldown, and if you use them before the enemy player runs out of stamina, they will probably just block the effect

    -ZeniMax feels that having the stamina bar will help break down the Holy Trinity as stamina allows you to do things like tank
    -However, healing is still a big part of the game
    -There is also no aggro mechanic in the game, which is part of the reason stamina blocking and healing exist

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    >no flying mounts
    potencijal....
    a mislio sam da cu napokon moc vozat dragona

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    A jos nista o tome oce li se placati mjesecno il ne?

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    A kaj misliš?

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    "It needs to be comfortable for people who are coming in from a typical massively multiplayer game that has the same control mechanisms, but it also has to appeal to Skyrim players."

    Ovo u prijevodu znači da neće nimalo nalikovati klasičnim TES igrama, ali će Zenimax svakako pokušati promijeniti klasični MMO pristup čime bi mogli još i više zasrati tako da igra neće biti za nikoga.
    Razumijem da se ne može implementirati isti način borbe radi latencije, ali ono...

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    Prema svemu viđenom do sada, totalna kopija TOR koncepta koji se baš i nije pokazao bajnim. Da ispod screenshota ne piše naziv TES, ne bih imao pojma kako se stvarno radi o fantasy igri smještenoj u Tamriel.
    Za sada ne vidim nikakav razlog za optimizam.
    "Death smiles at us all. All a man can do is smile back."


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    = Citat = Izvorno postao hansi
    >no flying mounts
    potencijal....
    a mislio sam da cu napokon moc vozat dragona
    Pa leteći mountsi su najgora stvar koju možeš napraviti MMO-u.
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    Je iko gleda malo po netu komentare na ovu igru? evo kunem se da dosad nisam vidio ovoliko negativnih komentara, čak ni za Diablo 3, jer tamo imamo ljude koji je srčano brane i one koji 'pljuju', no ovdje izgleda da ovi koji su stali uz igru i podržavaju je, praktički ne postoje.

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    Meni je malo nelogično još donositi presude pa se suzdržavam

    Dvije stvari kod koje mogu sigurno reći stav su 1. grafički izgled i dizajn (koji mi nisu baš pozitivni; odnosno, sviđaju mi se per se, ali ne kao TES) i 2. napokon cijeli Tamriel (što je veliki plus)

    A ovo ostalo, bog zna kako bu ispalo O-o
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    = Citat = Izvorno postao mravojed20
    Je iko gleda malo po netu komentare na ovu igru? evo kunem se da dosad nisam vidio ovoliko negativnih komentara, čak ni za Diablo 3, jer tamo imamo ljude koji je srčano brane i one koji 'pljuju', no ovdje izgleda da ovi koji su stali uz igru i podržavaju je, praktički ne postoje.
    Kako čudno. Nije da igra djeluje kao i svaki drugi free-to-play generični fantasy MMO.
    TOR barem ima svoju prepoznatljivu SW atmosferu.
    "Death smiles at us all. All a man can do is smile back."


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    = Citat = Izvorno postao mravojed20
    Je iko gleda malo po netu komentare na ovu igru? evo kunem se da dosad nisam vidio ovoliko negativnih komentara, čak ni za Diablo 3, jer tamo imamo ljude koji je srčano brane i one koji 'pljuju', no ovdje izgleda da ovi koji su stali uz igru i podržavaju je, praktički ne postoje.
    Vjerojatno jer viđeno i rečeno više-manje govori da je ovo TES igra samo u imenu. I da, real-time FPS borba je izvediva budući da je već Mortal Online ima, a napravila ga je skupina nesposobnih amatera u UE3. Ne, stvar je u tome da se cilja na klasiku.

    Elder Scrolls MMO? Way to kill your brand, Bethesda
    But here’s the secret, guys: you can’t out World of Warcraft World of Warcraft. It’s silly to even try. That game has a what, 10 year head start on any new MMO? Here’s my ultimate concern with the idea of an Elder Scrolls MMO: The Elder Scrolls games have always been premium quality. The best possible games in the genre that developers can make. The Elder Scrolls MMO will not be that.

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    Dobro, ako je loše, single playeri će ignorirati Zenimax Online, a nastaviti sa Bethesdinim SP TES VI (biti će ih, jelda? BITI ĆE IH JELDA?)
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    = Citat = Izvorno postao cham3leon
    Razumijem da se ne može implementirati isti način borbe radi latencije, ali ono...
    ne da ne može, već je implementiran, u darkfallu, mortalu i još nekim mmoima.

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    Ljudi stvaraju previše buke. Čak i ako propadne igra, što nas ima biti briga: nije utjecala na development Skyrima, ne utječe na developemnt DLC-eva za Skyrim i neće utjecati na TES6. Skyrim je sam zaradio i više no dovoljno da financira nasljednike, potpuni financijski kraj TESO-a neće ni ogrepsti TES SP.

    = Citat = Izvorno postao Aerial
    Dobro, ako je loše, single playeri će ignorirati Zenimax Online, a nastaviti sa Bethesdinim SP TES VI (biti će ih, jelda? BITI ĆE IH JELDA?)
    Biti će ih. Bethesda je odjebavala "Idemo napraviti MMO!" opciju čak i u vrijeme kad su svi mislili da su MMO-evi budućnost a i nedavno su potvrdili da ih boli K za MMO žanr. There is no reason to fear.

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    Vjerojatno najgora igra ikad.

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    ovaj put bi se čak i složio xd


    imam neki čudan predosjećaj u vezi ovog...

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    Ja imam predosjecaj da ce biti smece, sad kakav ce biti na kraju cemo tek vidjeti.

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    First Elder Scrolls Online Screen is Underwhelming

    Ako vam se neda čitati, vizualna poanta članka:


    TES screenshot:



    TES screeshot + WoW sučelje




    I'd have guessed that was another no-name game with the same generic, cartoonish art style we've seen in nearly every MMO of the past several years. That's not to suggest that TES has ever really had a unique look that separates it from generic, realistic, Tolkien-esque high-fantasy, but having just come off over 100 hours of Skyrim I expected some visual cues that would connect the online world to the wildly popular offline one.
    "Death smiles at us all. All a man can do is smile back."


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    Kakva će ovo katastrofa bit.

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    SThat's not to suggest that TES has ever really had a unique look that separates it from generic, realistic, Tolkien-esque high-fantasy
    Nije igro Morrowind.


    Al da će bezveze bit, bit će. Općenito ne vidim smisao u theme park MMO-ima tipa WoW, a pogotovo danas kad ima 290 klonova.

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    Bitno je samo što investitori vide
    "Death smiles at us all. All a man can do is smile back."


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    a pogotovo danas kad gw2 izlazi za par mjeseci.

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    Bit će običan, hotkey-based, WoW-like MMO i nema se tu šta reći, već je krajnje vrijeme da se odmaknemo od toga. Najzabavnija stvar u TES-u je slobodno razvijanje lika u kojem god smjeru igrač poželi, a ovdje se vraćamo na stari dobri grind, i nema smisla uopće očekivati nešto.
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    = Citat = Izvorno postao Neven <R>
    Al da će bezveze bit, bit će. Općenito ne vidim smisao u theme park MMO-ima tipa WoW, a pogotovo danas kad ima 290 klonova.
    Projekt je započet prije 5 godina kad je još izgledalo da vrijedi ulagati u MMO (well, Bethesda je odjebala šansu da radi na tome pa je možda i bilo onih koji su shvatili da je to one-way ticket to Hell)
    Danas znamo bolje ali prekasno je Zenimaxu za povlačenje.

    Bilo kako bilo, Skyrim je zaradio dovoljno da financira ekspanzije i sequele... so I don't care one way or the other.

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    Snimka interjvua s Mattom Firorom (Fat Mirror?) koji je "dvadeset godina u điru s MMO-ima":

    The Origins Of The Elder Scrolls Online
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    Ovaj pvp alliance v alliance o kojem priča mite be cool

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    Teaser video. Generičan je lagano.


    I interview sa gameplaya malo. Nimalo impresivno.

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