Neznam jeli ovo bilo:
http://www.nma-fallout.com/article.php?id=45725
Uglavnom,francuski magazin koji je imao pravo igrati igru 16 sati i totalno su je popljuvali.
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Neznam jeli ovo bilo:
http://www.nma-fallout.com/article.php?id=45725
Uglavnom,francuski magazin koji je imao pravo igrati igru 16 sati i totalno su je popljuvali.
Yahtzee će sigurno imati dosta toga za reći....
Kao sto sam vec rekao najveci problem sa ovom igrom je ime , i za sada stekao sam dojam da je to veliki korak nazad u legendarnom serijalu.= Citat =:
Izvorno postao Constantine
Svedno ,ionako nisam ocekivao da ce bethesda napraviti treci Fallout vec postapokalipticni Oblivion with guns, tako da vjerovatno necu biti razocaran.I dalje nestrpljivo cekam izlazak.
Ono, taj review je rekao ono što smo mi ili vidjeli iz filmića ili ono čega smo se bojali, a opet znali da će Bethesda BAŠ tako napraviti... damn youz.
Nisam iznenađen, a ja sam samo vidio filmove pa se slažem sa svime navedenim.
Sta oni znaju...= Citat =:
Izvorno postao Constantine
Domy ce njima objasnit koliko duga Bethesda radi vrhunske igre a gdje je sada Black Isle
Haha, najbolji post u temi :rotfl:
Nek nam bar daju CS da popravimo što se popraviti može.
Koliko god da je ostalom gaming pucanstvu igra loša meni ce bit odlicna. Vrteljam se malo po RPG Codexu i ti ljudi tamo nisu normalni, ka da im je smisao života pljuvat po bethesdi i fallout trici. Ne samo oni, i vi tu. Ljudi koga briga ako je auto zarđalo, neka bude šta više eksplozija. Udovi i dalje letaju svud oko nas, a to je ono najvažnije. :)
Domy ce reci da rijetko vjeruje ikakvim reviewima i čeka da sam vidi igru,a tako i preporuča vama
Poigledajte malo diskusiju na forumima i pročitajte kaj ljudi imaju za reć na taj review.
"CanardPC are huge fallout 1 and 2 fan boy's. I can see why they dislike it so much,
I would really like a more neutral review."
"Urgh, French reviewers hate this game. In fact foreign (non-North American and UK, that is) previewers seem to not like Fallout 3 the most. I need to do a survey real quick."
"Pc Jeux (also French) gave it a 93%. "
"I have to admit all Canadian reviews or articles on games are the worst. Most of em are horrible and the people who review them are crackheads. I'm Canadian so I would know. Pcworld . ca is another example of a horrid discrimination of reviews. So mark my word NEVER trust Canadian reviews. "
Mišljenja su jako podijeljena,pogovo na konzervativne i liberalne i previše ljudi sumnja u profesionalnost recenzenta koji i sam na početku priznaje da ima previše predrasuda,pogotovo jer je "morao" igrati 16 sati u luksuznom hotelu i morao je dati screenshotove na pregled da dobije odobrenje koje smije objavit.
Svaka čast NMA,ali njima nikad ništa neće biti jednako dobro i to je u redu,njihovo mišljenje. Ne dijelim ga
Evo još jednog reviewa,poljskog.
http://fallout3.wordpress.com/2008/1...ews-fallout-3/
To sum it up, Fallout 3 is not a perfect product and people will be as divided about it after the release as before it. The malcontents will harshly criticize Bethesda for simplifying the gameplay compared to previous iterations of the series, and the PC version will require a patch or two (one is reportedly to be released on day 1). (…) The most important thing is that the makers managed to keep the mature atmosphere of the series and its most important trait - the ability to shape the story yourself. The new game begins (and ends), just like its predecessors, with the legendary words: “War, war never changes.” The same can be said about Fallout.
Fallout 3 is a game different from its great predecessor, but it doesn’t mean it’s worse. It’s just a continuation of the series adjusted to an entirely new age of interactive entertainment - fortunately, it keeps the atmosphere of the originals. Despite minor flaws, it is a strong contender for being the RPG of the year!
Pros:
A good recreation of Fallout’s atmosphere
Freedom of play
The VATS system
Cons:
Somewhat simplified gameplay compared to previous games
Slight technical problems
The general score is 8.75/10, broken down into several parts:
Gameplay - 9.25 (Playability: 9.5, Longevity: 9.5, Variety: 9, AI: 9)
Graphics - 8.25 (Appearance: 8.5, Animations: 8 )
Sound - 9.5 (Music: 9.5, Effects: 9.5)
Technical quality - 7.38 (Fluency: 7, Loading times: 8.5)
I o ovom se vodi rasprava,ali generalni koncenzus je da predstavlja sredinu među ekstremima mrzim ga/obožavam ga.
A few comment on the source:
Canard PC is not something that tries to pass off as a "professional-like" gaming magazine. It's been founded by people who had left their gaming magazine (Joystick) when that one was bought from Hachette by another company, Future Publishing, and they thought they'd lose what little independence they had.
So when they created Canard PC, the aim was to make something that would be completely indie, which explains why they're so eager to bash "mainstream" games, and also why they feel so free to rant rather than really review.
They also have a peculiar sense of humor, a very Internet sense of humor if you see what I mean. To get the cleverness of the name:
1. Canard is, as said, a slang word for newspaper. (It also means duck. It's important to understand a later point.)
2. A PC is, as everyone knows, a Personal Computer.
3. The Toilet Duck brand is sold in France under the name of "Canard WC".
jedno pitanje za starije verzije znam da ima:
fallout 1
fallout 2
ali šta je sada ovo:
Fallout Radioactive
i neki fallout 1,2 i 3 tactics?
Fallout Radioactive ti je kompilacija svih fallouta (1,2, tactics)
fallout: tactics ti je isto fallout igra, samo od drugog proizvođača i po mišljenjima fanova dosta lošija od jedinice i dvojke.
dakle zapravo prave fallout igre su:
fallout 1
fallout 2
ovo radioactive i tactics su neke žvrlje
Da, Fallout Tactics se ne priznaje kao dio priče Fallouta 1 i 2. Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel također.
e jbg-at ga :(
imam windows XP sp 3 i rekao sam sebi dugo je vremena prošlo od kako sam prešao fallout 1 i 2 pa prije ove treće sage rekao sam sebi idem prijeći još jednom prvi i drugi dio.
Drugi dio radi kako spada i bez problema ga instaliram i igram ali prvi:
kada idem na auto play ispiše mi kad kliknem na install:
Sorry,this product is not supported by this version of Windows.
no to sam riješio da sam otvorio cd i klikuo odmah na install i uspio instalirati igru ali kad kliknem na fallout aplikaciju on je pokrene i piše mi please wait i samo me izbaci iz igre u windows neće mi pokrenuti igru.Pokušao sam i sa compatibility na win 95 ali isto dobijem.
jel ima neka caka kako igrati fallout prvi dio na xp jel baš me uhvatilo da igram opet te igre!
nemam edit tipku više ali evo ovdje radi ja provjerio pa ako nekome pomogne.
NT/WinXP users can get around the installer by manually installing the game themselves. Note however that you must have at least NT 4.0 with Service Pack 3 in order to play the game. Also, Fallout should work fine but was not tested very much under NT.
First, create a folder for your game called fallout1/2 (ie c:\games\fallout1 or c:\games\fallout2).
Copy (CDROM):\program\win\falloutw.___ (Fallout 1) or (CDROM):\program\win\fallout2.___ (Fallout 2) to the folder you created and rename it to falloutw.exe/fallout2.exe.
Now you have four choices, depending on the installation size you want:
Small Installation: Do not copy anything else.
Medium Installation: Copy (CDROM):\master.dat (318MB) to your fallout folder (ie c:\games\fallout1 or c:\games\fallout2)
Big Installation: Copy Copy (CDROM):\master.dat (318MB) and (CDROM):\critter.dat (150MB) to your fallout folder (ie c:\games\fallout1 or c:\games\fallout2)
Humongous Installation: Copy Copy (CDROM):\master.dat (318MB), (CDROM):\critter.dat (150MB) and Copy the entire (CDROM):\data folder to your fallout folder (ie c:\games\fallout1 or c:\games\fallout2)
Create a text file in c:\games\fallout1 or c:\games\fallout2 called fallout.cfg or fallout2.cfg and add the following line to it, depending on your installation/game:
Fallout 1:
Small Installation:
[system]S
master_dat=(CDROM):\master.dat
critter_dat=(CDROM):\critter.dat
[sound]S
music_path2=(CDROM):\data\sound\music
free_space=0
Medium Installation:
[system]S
master_dat=c:\games\fallout\master.dat
critter_dat=(CDROM):\critter.dat
[sound]S
music_path2=(CDROM):\data\sound\music
free_space=0
Big Installation:
[system]S
master_dat=c:\games\fallout\master.dat
critter_dat=c:\games\fallout\critter.dat
[sound]S
music_path2=(CDROM):\data\sound\music
free_space=0
Humongous Installation:
[system]S
master_dat=c:\games\fallout\master.dat
critter_dat=c:\games\fallout\critter.dat
[sound]S
music_path2=c:\games\fallout\data\sound\music
free_space=0
Fallout 2:
Small Installation:
[sound]S
music_path2=(CDROM):\data\sound\music\
[system]S
critter_dat=(CDROM):\critter.dat
critter_patches=c:\games\fallout2\data
master_dat=(CDROM):\master.dat
master_patches=c:\games\fallout2\data
Medium Installation:
[sound]S
music_path2=(CDROM):\data\sound\music\
[system]S
critter_dat=(CDROM):\critter.dat
critter_patches=c:\games\fallout2\data
master_dat=c:\games\fallout2\master.dat
master_patches=c:\games\fallout2\data
Big Installation:
[sound]S
music_path2=(CDROM):\data\sound\music\
[system]S
critter_dat=c:\games\fallout2\critter.dat
critter_patches=c:\games\fallout2\data
master_dat=c:\games\fallout2\master.dat
master_patches=c:\games\fallout2\data
Humongous Installation:
[sound]S
music_path1=c:\games\fallout2\data\sound\music\
music_path2=(CDROM):\data\sound\music\
[system]S
critter_dat=c:\games\fallout2\critter.dat
critter_patches=c:\games\fallout2\data
master_dat=c:\games\fallout2\master.dat
master_patches=c:\games\fallout2\data
NOTE German version:
I just got word from fr33l that if you have the german version you also need to add:
language=german
under the [System]Stab in the cfg file.
Next install the official patches for Fallout 1 or Fallout 2, it's easiest just to unzip/unrar them into the Fallout 1/2 folder.
Start the game by running the falloutw.exe or the fallout2.exe file.
You might have to enable the Compatibility mode to run the game, to do this:
Make a shortcut to the falloutw.exe or fallout2.exe file
Right click the shortcut, and select "Properties->Compatibility" and select either Win95,98
Enjoy!
Od svih dosadašnjih mišljenja ljudi koji su zaigrali Fallout 3 najčudnije su mi one priče jednog novinara da je igra pusta i da igrač luta unaokolo bez ičega za raditi, dok je drugi novinar govorio kako je prenapučena i da se svaka dva metra naleti na nešto. Mislim, to su stvarno dvije krajnosti. Nije mi jasno kako dvije osobe koje su igrale istu igru mogu steći dva toliko suprotna dojma.
a reci mi jednu igru kod koje svatko ima isto mišljenje ;)
možda je lik mislio da se cijelo vrijeme besciljno luta po igri, dakle to šta se okreneš iza ugla i pwnaš 3 radscorpiona, a kasnije 3 člana enclave-a covjek ne smatra kao nesto sto se moze nazvati napucenoscu igre.
World of Goo= Citat =:
Izvorno postao GeForce
On topic, svatko ima svoja mišljenja ali je očito da je jedan od njih lagao. Predpostavljam da je to onaj koji je reko da je igra prepusta.
gotovo svakoj igri se može nać mana, a ako ideš igrat s namjerom da tražiš mane naći ćeš ih sto jer ne postoji nešto kao savršenstvo. ponekad ti um bira ono što zaparavo želiš vidjet. i oblivion je bio pust i prazan, a opet toliko masivan i mogao si igrat i do 100 sati a da se ne makneš dalje od prvog main questa.= Citat =:
Izvorno postao MacGyver
Source: NMA
PC Action Germany takes a look at Fallout 3. They give the game a 90%, explaining the detractions from 100% as -4% handling of the Pip-Boy could be easier; -2% some boring dungeon-crawling; -1% dreary environment; -1% player character moving too slow; -1% inventory has console-like feel to it.
Tidbits and translation by DJS4000:
[It seems the whole review had not been conducted “in-house”, but was a bethesda-sponsored event-like meeting in a luxury hotel in Nuremberg. They got to play the game for two days, which equals around 15 hours.]
[introduction and history of the fallout universe]
The tutorial is, literally, child's play. You will witness your birth, during which your mother dies, and then play through important parts of your childhood. But first you get to choose Name, Sex and Appearance, ethnic origin, hairdo, -color and one of ten faces.
[further description of the tutorial, how you learn to use WASD, the mouse-wheel, switch between first and third person. your 10th birthday, where you get the Red Ryder and learn about V.A.T.S.]
At the end of the tutorial you can either keep your stats or completely realign them. No big surprise for everyone who has played Oblivion. The tutorial is a strong indicator of the likeness of both titles, gameplay-wise.
[they go on explaining the first minutes after you left the vault, what perks are, etc. no criticism here]
The first settlement you see is Megaton, a city build around a dud nuke. But don't get us wrong, you don't have to go there. Whatever you do is completely your choice. The main quest creates its own story arc throughout the game, what you do apart form it is up to you. You can complete the game without doing any secondary quests, but we strongly advise you to do as many of them as you can. It's very rewarding.
[they explain choice and consequence by going through the megaton quest, and how you, as a female, can talk Bourke out of his fantasies with a high speech-skill and the “black-widow”-perk]
With this particular quest, both solutions lead to the same reward: some money, equipment, good or bad karma and, as the main prize, your own apartment. Here you can store items, rest to regenerate and even practice your Ikea-skills. You even get your own robot butler, who, on request, will tell you a lot of bad jokes. It is at this point, that you realize who the real stars in this game are: lots and lots of details, built into game with love. They put life into the twisted world. Part of this is the excellent dialogue [keep in mind, they have the German localization here, which, quite uncommon, seems to be excellent], the detailed, believable characters and the funny illustrations with the vault-boy, just to name a few. In only 15 hours of testing we experienced so much of the post-apocalyptic world, and everything fit together and made sense. This goes for secondary quests, too, and although they won't have so far reaching consequences like Megaton, they will almost always put you, the player, in front of decisions with moral implications. Re-playability is high.
Just one question remains: How good is Fallout 3 in direct comparison with Oblivion? Localization is excellent, and there are no unnerving abbreviations. Usability of the inventory is good, although the pip-boy-screen could have been bigger. You cannot quick-bind certain functions of the pip-boy, so you always have to go through the pip-screen, which gets boring after a while. Visually speaking, Fallout 3 is not quite up to Oblivion. Washed-out textures, and low-detail characters are a bit disappointing. What looks really good though are weapons and weapon effects, especially the Fat Man. Throughout the review, the game ran smoothly under Vista in a resolution of 1600x1200 with maximum details. The machine was 2.66Ghz quadcore with 4GB of ram and a GeForce 9800GT.
Reviewer's Commentary 1:
I bow down to the programmers! Fallout 3 came out exactly like I wanted it to be. Bethesda managed to force the look, feel and humor of the 2D-predecessors in a 3D-corset. I am especially turned on by the high replay-value. Good or Evil, Man or Woman, Action or Adventure – Fallout 3 offers you all of it, if you let yourself in. Not even Oblivion offered this much detail and complexity.
Reviewer's Commentary 2:
“[he begins the paragraph with insulting the first reviewer, who “drools more than a hungry Giant Schnauzer”]SBut I have to confess: I like Fallout 3 just as much. Not even for its looks, there are definitely better looking games, but the excellent story and virtually limitless freedom tickle my post-apocalyptic nature. The possibility to engage the hassle-free bodypart-targeting-mode in a firefight is brilliant. [he ends the paragraph by insulting the first reviewer, who is “worse than censored localizations”]
FAIL!
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Izvorno postao Domy
Ajme, takvo nešto su napravili i za hellgate... doduše meni se hellgate svidio, ah well vidjet ćemo...
hehehe
dobra
Ljepo su kritizirali grafiku, a to sam i očekivao jer je ovo ipak naslov i za konzole.
Oblivion with guns?
Što se mene tiče može , Oblivion je sjajna igra.
Grafika će definitivno biti slična oblivionu , pošto su naveli da igraju:
"the game ran smoothly under Vista in a resolution of 1600x1200 with maximum details. The machine was 2.66Ghz quadcore with 4GB of ram and a GeForce 9800GT."
Znači da će igra raditi na max i uz 8800GT , 2 gb rama i i bilo kojem dovjezgrenom procu koji ima 2 do 3GHz ,i to na max ili blizu toga.
Ako atmosfera bude dobra kao u stalkeru , ne vidim zbog čega bi igra bila loša.
Ja se jako veselim ovoj igri i opce me ne zanimaju bilokakve rane recenzije. Tako se pljuvalo po BiA:Hell's Highway prije nego li je igra izasla, a onda odjednom gle cuda, igra je super. Jebi ga, Fallout je krenuo u "nove vode" a ljudima je obicaj popljuvati sve sto je novo...Mislim da bu igra skroz ok i pobogu, ipak su je radili ljudi koji imaju i vise nego dovoljno iskustva s RPG-vima. Ipak, danas je vise nerealno ocekivat da igra nebude u 3D-u sa dobrom grafikom jer je novac danas svima primaran, tu pomoci jednostavno nema. Bethesda je nastojala kolko tolko udovoljiti fanovima, ali je morala igru ucinit cim pristupacnijom za sire mase ljudi jer ipak produkcija puno kosta, a oni hocu nesto i zaradit, zar ne?
U Falloutu 3 nema ništa, apsolutno ništa novo, sve je već viđeno, bilo u prošlim Fallout igrama, ili u nekoj drugoj igri.
Nitko ni ne traži 2D igru..
Bethesda Fallout fanovima nije udovoljila uopće..Oblivion fanovima? :friends: