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Ja bi njega za Bombura :(

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E to bi bilo vrhunski :(

Kolko j meni poznati, glumci koji su glumili u LotR su bili/jesu vrhunski kazalisni glumci. correct me if wrong

I ne samo kazališni, Christopher Lee, Ian McKellen, Viggo Mortensen također imao glumačku karijeru prije Lotr-a

jesu neki, al velika vecina nije

Sam, Pippin, Boromir, Gimli, Frodo. za njih nikad prije lotra ja nisam cuo/vidio, no bili su kazalisni glumci.
ako bog da, isto tako ce biti i sa hobbitom.

Sean Bean (smesno zvuci jel da :) ) je imao solidnu glumacku karijeru,ali pak dosta likova (hobbiti uglavnom) nisu bili poznati,cak stovise,vecini njih je Lotr bio umesto odskocne daske,gotovo poslednji veci glumacki (filmski) poduhvat,osim izuzetka Froda,koji je imao jos par ok filmova.

A od te glumacke postave su isto bili poznati glumci Frodo i Gandalf, te od sporednih Liv Tyler i Cate Blanchett, neki su postali poznati kasnije, a za neke vise nisan ni cua.

Niste spomenuli i legendarne uloge Petera Jacksona, kad brani Helm's Deep, glumi pijanduru u Breeju i umire od Legolasove strijele :rotfl:

Uostalom, pogledajte

Hej!Primetio sam ga kada baca neki oversized-rock na Uruk-Hai ratnike,prvo sam bio zacudjen,a onda sam i na netu video da je to zaista on. :)

Opako! :pray:
Ma nikako da te dodatke pogledam.
Nakon maratonskog gledanja LotR-a neda mi se vise nista gledati. Mislio asm dodatke malo po malo svaki dan gledati, ali je i to brzo palo u vodu.
Malo navrati frend i veli, ajmo SC2 zahalati, pa dode buraz, ajmo SC2, pa poslje pocnem druge filmove gledati... tako da na kraju izgubim onaj kontinuitet pa mi se poslje uopce vise neda.

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BREAKING NEWS: The Hobbit Stays In New Zealand

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Mala novost!

Cate BlanchettSi Orlando BloomSreprziriaju svoje uloge u "Hobbitu"! :)

oni će bit u onom drugom djelu, je? pošto se ne pojavljuju u prvom dijelu (hobbitu) :D

ja se nesječam da je legolas bio u hobbitu :o

sad preko zime bi uz silmarillion mogo i hobbita ponovit

Legolas se pored njegove uloge u LOTR-u (ratu za prsten) pojavljuje i u lovu na Golluma.(kratkom opisu gollumovog bega i njegovog ubilackog lova za Bilbom.)~ on je tu samo doneo vesti o Gollumovom begu.

Lov na Golluma,šta to nije bilo negdje u vrijeme FOTR-a?

Veoma mala vremenska razlika,malo pre no sto je Frodo krenuo u Rivendell.

Što je bilo jedno 60-ak godina nakon Bilbovog putovanja...

Ja ne povezujem Legolasa i 'Hobbit' vec samo kazem da je Legolas bio ukljucen u radnju i pre LOTR-a.

reci mi nešto što prije nisam znao, al moje pitanje je bilo kakve veze ima s hobbitom a ne lotrom.

Zar je toliko tesko malo googlati?
Ugl,evo ti odgovora.

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Deadline.com is reporting that Orlando Bloom is expected to reprise his role as Legolas Greenleaf in the upcoming ‘Hobbit’ films. You may ask, how can this be? Well, quite simply, the character of Legolas was very much alive during the timeframe of The Hobbit. In fact, he was probably several thousand years old at the time of The Lord of the Rings! Since Legolas is the son of Thranduil (The Elvenking), a major player in ‘The Hobbit,’ one can easily see Peter, Phillipa, and Fran writing him into the script. *MINOR SPOILERS* Not only would he appear in Mirkwood with the other wood-elves, he could very well lead the wood-elf contingent into the Battle of Five Armies!

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joj da zaboravio totalno na battle of five armies.

nemoraš bit tako hostilan.

also, ako niste primjetili, bio je i u bitci kod dagorlada na kraju 2. doba

Elijah Wood u "Hobbitu"

Vijest ima dosta spoilera, pa ako zelite ostati u blazenom neznanju, ne klikajte na link! :wink:

Sir Ian McKellenSi Andy SerkisSsu konacno potvrdili svoj angazman u "Hobbitu"!

OVDJESmozete procitati sa kojim se glumcima iz trilogije jos pregovara...

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From Sir Christopher Lee’s Official Site:SSlowly but surely, Peter Jackson has managed to secure the return of the majority of the major stars from The Lord of the Rings franchise for his soon to be shooting prequel, based on J.R.R. Tolkien’s The Hobbit.

Sir. Christopher Lee had been in talks to reprise his role as the wizard Saruman and it now looks certain, providing that he is in good health, that he will be appearing in the movie.

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odlična vijest, što više stare ekipe to bolje ;)

Ma nije, mislim za Sir Ian McKellena i Andy Serkisa je dobro, al zasto Wood mora iopet biti u filmu, ka da ga u lotru nije bilo dovoljno za pa uvijek

Biće super film, baš dobro što opet glumi Bobo)

LOTR serijal mi je jedan od najboljih filmova, mislio sad da će nakon knjiga koje sma pročitao bit neprepoznatljivi trash, ali ne, film je potpuno pogodio atmosferu, detalje, ma vse.

Baš dobro što su odlčučili snimiti prequel na trilogiju, da malo bolje vidimo život hobita.

Jel zamjerate Jacksonu sto se nije drzao knjige? Ili ste mu oprostili sto si je uzeo malo umjetnicke slobode?
Naletio sam na par likova koji su film popljuvali bas zbog toga.
Sto se mene tice film bi mi bio jos bolji da se drzao knjige od pocetka do kraja. Ali necu zbog toga reci da je film smece. Odlican je film i sve sto je mogao Peter Jackson je iz knjige prenio na film.
Malo ga je prilagodio mlađoj publici i uveo je par smijesnih izmjena.
(Jedino sto nikako necu prezaliti sto nije uspio ubaciti scenu sa Tomom Bombadilom, ali tko zna koliko bi onda dugacak film bio.)
Sta mislite za Hobbite? Da li bi vam bilo draze da se drzi striktno knjige ili da radi na svoj nacin?

Pa ja ne zamjeram, recimo u knjizi bitka kod helms deepa je opisana u samo par crtica, a to je bila jedna od većih bitaka i važnijih, i u filmu je dobro prikazana.
Što se mene tiče nek snime filmove o First Ageu, Second A, Third A, Fourth A. Ima toliko stvari za snimit još filmova o gospodaru prstenova, da bi bilo šteta to ne snimit.

Ja mu nikad neću oprostiti za Bombadila. Nikad. To bi bilo zakon :(

Ni ja :(

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Jel netko ima informacija o Entovima? Baš me zanima otkud su stigli, koliko su stari i takve stvari o njima. Djeluju prekul imho.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ent
http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Ents
Ne poznajem LOTR dovoljno dobro da bi ti licno nesto napisao. :(

Daj copy/paste u spoiler, troši mi mnogo jer sam na mobu . Please :(

Dosta teksta je u spolieru! (zapravo,nema toliko mnogo teksta,ali je bezveze da ogroman c/p ne stoji u spolieru)
(izvoli chupa)

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Ents, also called Onodrim by the elves, are a very old race that appeared in Middle-earth when the elves did. They were apparently created by Eru Ilúvatar at the behest of Yavanna after she learned of Aulë&#39;s children, the Dwarves, knowing that they would want to fell trees. Ents were envisioned as Shepherds
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of the Trees, to
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orcs, Dwarves and other perils. The Elves have tales of teaching the trees and the Ents to talk: although the Ents were sentient beings at the time, they did not know how to speak until the Elves taught them. Treebeard spoke of the Elves "curing the Ents of their dumbness" that it was a great gift that could not be forgotten ("always wanted to talk to everything, the old Elves did").

In The Two Towers, Chapter 5, "The White Rider", Gandalf calls Treebeard ,"...the oldest living thing that still walks beneath the Sun upon this Middle-earth." In The Return of the King, Chapter 6, "Many Partings", Celeborn addresses Treebeard as "Eldest."

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Ents are tree-like creatures, having become like the trees that they herded. They vary in traits, from everything to height and size, colouring, and the number of fingers and toes. An individual Ent more or less resembles the specific species of tree that they typically guard. For example, Quickbeam guarded Rowan trees and thus looked very much like a Rowan (tall and slender, etc.). In the Third Age of Middle-earth, the forest of Fangorn was apparently the only place Ents still inhabited, although the Ent-like Huorns may still have survived elsewhere, as in the Old Forest. Contents [show]

HistoryEdit
Almost nothing is known of the early history of the Ents — they apparently lived in and protected the large forests of Middle-earth in previous ages, and they briefly appear near the end of the First Age, attacking a band of Dwarves, apparently summoned by Beren and Lúthien. Treebeard told of a time when apparently all of Eriador was one huge forest and part of his domain, but these immense forests were cut by the Númenóreans of the Second Age, or destroyed in the calamitous War of the Elves and Sauron of the 17th century of the Second Age.
A group of Ents with Treebeard, the eldest Ent, in the center. From Peter Jackson&#39;s The Two Towers.
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Treebeard&#39;s statement is also supported
A group of Ents with Treebeard, the eldest Ent, in the center. From Peter Jackson&#39;s The Two Towers.
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at the Council of Elrond. Elrond said that "Time was once when a squirrel could carry a nut from tree to tree from Rivendell to the Great Sea...", further indicating that all of Eriador was once a single vast primeval forest, of which Fangorn Forest was just "the Eastern End of it" according to Treebeard.

Treebeard boasted to Merry and Pippin about the strength of the Ents. He said that they were much more powerful than Trolls, which Morgoth (in the Elder Days or First Age) supposedly made as imitations of the Ents, but did not come near to their power. He compares this with how orcs were Morgoth&#39;s imitation of elves. There used to be Entwives (literally "Ent-women"), but they started to move farther away from the Ents because they liked to plant and control things, so they moved away to the region that would later become the Brown Lands across the Great River Anduin. This area was destroyed by Sauron, and the Entwives disappeared. The Ents looked for them, but have never found them. It is sung by the Ents that one day they will find each other, when they lose all else. In the Fellowship of the Ring, Sam Gamgee says his cousin Hal saw a treelike giant in the north of the Shire. When Pippin and Merry tell Treebeard about the Shire, Treebeard says the Entwives would like that land, suggesting Hal saw either an Entwife or a Huorn.
Evidence of the origin of the Ents can be found in the Valaquenta, in an exchange between Yavanna (a queen of the Valar, "...lover of all things that grow in the earth.") and Manwë ("...the first of all Kings: lord of the realm of Arda."), after Yavanna&#39;s spouse Aulë secretly endeavors to create the Dwarves. Aulë reminds her that the children of Ilúvatar (Elves, Men and now Dwarves) will exploit her creations for their own benefit, "though not without respect and gratitude." The defenselessness of her realm moves Yavanna to plead with Manwë: "My heart is anxious, thinking of the days to come. All my works are dear to me... Shall nothing that I have devised be free from the
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dominion of others?” Manwë
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she would have preserved against exploitation, and she answers: "...the kelvar can flee or defend themselves, whereas the olvar that grow cannot. And among these I hold trees dear... Would that the trees might speak on behalf of all things that have roots, and punish those that wrong them!” Manwë, while deliberating, is overcome by a vision of the music of the Ainur, and grants her request: "Behold! When the Children awake, then the thought of Yavanna will awake also, and it will summon spirits from afar, and they will go among the kelvar and the olvar, and some will dwell therein, and be held in reverence, and their just anger shall be feared." Yavanna returns to her spouse Aulë and reports: “Eru is bountiful. Now let thy children beware! For there shall walk a power in the forests whose wrath they will arouse at their peril.” He responds ominously: “Nonetheless they will have need of wood.”
LanguageEdit

Ents are not hasty creatures, they take their time; even their language is "unhasty". In fact, their language appears to be based on an ancient form of Common Eldarin, later enriched by Quenya and Sindarin, although it includes many unique &#39;tree-ish&#39; additions. There are actually two different languages:
Old Entish. Originally, the Ents had a language of their own, described as long and sonorous; it was a tonal language (like Chinese). It is unknown if a non-Ent could even pronounce Old Entish correctly: it was filled with many subtle vowel shades, and was very longwinded. Only Ents spoke Old Entish; not because they kept their language a secret, as the Dwarves did with Khuzdul, but because no other could master it. It was quite an alien language to all others. The Huorns and trees of Fangorn forest could understand Old Entish and converse with the Ents and each other with it. The only extant sample, a-lalla-lalla-rumba-kamanda-lindor-burúme, the word for hill (or possibly even just part of the name of a specific hill), was described as a very inaccurate sampling. Even the Elves, master linguists, could not learn Old Entish, nor did they attempt to record it due to its complex sound structure. The grammar structure of Old Entish was also quite bizarre, often described as a lengthy, long-winded discussion of a topic. There may not even have been a word for yes and no: such questions would be answered by a long monologue on why the Ent in question did or did not agree with the Ent who asked the question. The Ent Quickbeam was regarded as a very "hasty" Ent for answering a question before another Ent had finished: the end may only have been another hour away. Ents as a rule would say nothing in Old Entish unless it was worth taking a long time to say. For everyday language function, they usually resorted to "New" Entish.
"New" Entish (Never named as such in the text). Due to contact with the Elves, the Ents learned much from them. The Ents found the Elvish language Quenya to be a lovely language, and adapted it after their fashion to everyday use. However, they basically adapted Quenya vocabulary to Old Entish grammatical structure. Thus, unlike Old Entish, the individual words of "New Entish" that characters such as Treebeard spoke were easily translatable. However, in context they formed lengthy run-on sentences of redundant adjectives that could still stretch well over an hour in length. For example, when Treebeard essentially wanted to tell Merry and Pippin, "There is a shadow of the Great Darkness in the deep dales of the forest", he literally said in New Entish "Forest-golden-leaves, deep-dales-winter, forest-many-shadowed, deep-valley-black". Unlike Old Entish, a non-Ent conceivably could speak "New" Entish. Even when speaking the Common Speech, Westron, Ents fell into the habit of adapting it into their grammatical structure of repeating compound adjectives used to express fine shades of meaning.

The Elvish name for Ents is Onodrim, singular Onod.
The Last March of the EntsEdit
In The Two Towers, the second volume of Tolkien&#39;s The Lord of the Rings, the Ents—usually a very patient, deliberate people—do become angry at Saruman, whose armies are cutting down (in their eyes, killing) large
The Last March of the Ents as depicted in Peter Jackson&#39;s The Two Towers.
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numbers of their trees.
The Last March of the Ents as depicted in Peter Jackson&#39;s The Two Towers.
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Fangorn Forest at Derndingle.

After lengthy deliberation (though from the perspective of the Ents, this is very quick action), they march on Saruman&#39;s fortress at Isengard: the last march of the Ents. They are led by Treebeard, the oldest Ent, and accompanied by the Hobbits Meriadoc Brandybuck and Peregrin Took. They destroy Isengard in an all-out assault and trap Saruman in the tower of Orthanc.

Tolkien later noted that the destruction of Isengard by the Ents was based on his disappointment in Macbeth; when "Birnham Wood is come to castle Dunsinane", Tolkien was less than thrilled that it amounted to men walking on stage with leaves in their hats. He decided that when he did that scene for himself, he&#39;d do it right.
StatueEdit

There are plans to erect a statue of Treebeard, by Tim Tolkien, J.R.R.&#39;s great-nephew, near the latter&#39;s former home in Moseley, Birmingham.
EtymologyEdit

The word "Ent" was taken from Anglo-Saxon, where it means "giant". Tolkien may have extracted the word from the Anglo-Saxon poetry fragments orþanc enta geweorc = "work of cunning giants" and eald enta geweorc = "old work of giants", which described Ancient Rome|Roman ruins; see Orthanc. In this sense of the word, Ents are probably the most ubiquitous of all creatures in fantasy and folklore, perhaps second only to Dragons. The word Ent, as it is historically used, can refer to any number of large, roughly humanoid creatures, including, but not limited to, giants, trolls, orcs, and even Grendel from the poem Beowulf.

In this meaning of the word, Ents are one of the staples of fantasy and folklore/mythology, alongside wizards, knights, princesses, and dragons, although modern English-speakers would probably not call them by their traditional name.

Tolkien&#39;s Ents are very different from traditional Ents, appearing as humanoid trees. They appear to have been inspired by the talking trees of many of the world&#39;s folklores. See tree (mythology) for more information.

As with Hobbit, Ent is a term that in modern times is almost exclusively connected with J.R.R. Tolkien, and the usage of the term seldom evokes in people its earlier meanings.
Tolkien-like Ents in non-Tolkien fictionEdit

In fantasy and role-playing games such as Dungeons & Dragons, EverQuest, Magic: The Gathering, and the Warcraft PC game series, Tolkien-like Ents are known as Treants or Treefolk, for copyright reasons (much like Hobbits are only referred to as Halflings in D&D and EverQuest). Tolkien-like Ents are also depicted in the MMORPG of RuneScape, as well as the real-time strategy game Myth: The Fallen Lords. In all their incarnations, these tree-people are very close in spirit to their Tolkienesque forebears, although D&D has also explored the concept of corrupt trees and tree-like monsters (akin to Old Man Willow and the huorns of Fangorn). Somewhat akin to Ents are the Ancients portrayed in the Warcraft universe. A tree-like Jedi appears in the Star Wars: Young Jedi Knights novels.

Jel knjiga "Hurinova Djeca" vrijedna citanja?.

Jeste.Nije losa,iako zna biti pomalo nezgodna ako nisi dobro upoznat sa Tolkien-ovim svetom.

Istina, al definitivno meni najbolja, zajedno sa Silmarillionom

Meni najbolje Tolkienovo djelo.