A slušaj, nisam ja kriv što većina ljudi nema toliko mogućnost održavanja pažnje i da zbog toga ne mogu pogledati dugi film. Da se mene pita, ja bi ga gledao pa makar trajao 5 sati, u komadu ako treba.
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A slušaj, nisam ja kriv što većina ljudi nema toliko mogućnost održavanja pažnje i da zbog toga ne mogu pogledati dugi film. Da se mene pita, ja bi ga gledao pa makar trajao 5 sati, u komadu ako treba.
postoji DVD pa gledaš svaki dan po 30 minuta to se može.... zar ne..... i problem je riješen.....= Citat =:
Izvorno postao Arbiter of Change
[quote=Lord AngelRI]postoji DVD pa gledaš svaki dan po 30 minuta to se može.... zar ne..... i problem je riješen.....[/quote:3ptkon0w]= Citat =:
Izvorno postao "Arbiter of Change":3ptkon0w
:rotfl:
i film nije sranje.. može biti da nekome nije dobar ali da je sranje..ajde
THE COUNCILE OF ELROND!!!
The council held on 25 October III 3018 at Rivendell, where the history of the Ring was discussed, and its fate debated. Present at the council were representatives of all the free peoples of Middle-earth.
After much debate, four main proposals were put forward. Erestor, Elrond's chief counsellor, suggested taking the Ring back westward to Tom Bombadil, in the hope that he could withhold it from Sauron. Glorfindel suggested something similar: carrying the Ring west to the Great Sea and casting it in. Both of these courses were thought too dangerous to attempt, and rejected for other reasons besides.
Boromir of Gondor had a bolder proposal: to take the Ring and wield it against its maker. The dangers of doing this were all too clear, and none of those present who might have taken up the Ring would agree to do so.
The final conclusion of the Council was to follow the course devised by Elrond himself, to carry the Ring into Mordor and cast it into Mount Doom. By no means all the Council agreed with this course. Erestor in particular saw little hope of succeeding. 'That is the path of despair,' he said, 'Of folly I would say, if the long wisdom of Elrond did not forbid me.' (The Fellowship of the Ring II 2, The Council of Elrond).
Nonetheless, Elrond's plan was accepted as the only course possible. As Gandalf said, 'It is wisdom to recognise necessity, when all other courses have been weighed...' (ibid). Frodo the Ring-bearer took on the task, and a Company for him was assembled from five others of those present at the council, to which were added the hobbits Samwise Gamgee, Meriadoc Brandybuck and Peregrin Took. This was the Company or Fellowship of the Ring, that set out from Rivendell on the journey that Erestor had called the 'path of despair'.
Sad znamo zasto je Tom Bombadil bio kljucan lik.Njemu su htjeli dat Prsten na cuvanje!
Pozdrav!!!
Hm,da...ali on nije htio prsten...i kao sto je sam rekao...zagubio bi ga...
Pa ja sam mislio da ti to znaš!Ako ne znaš,onda dobro jutro.Pa to je bila jedna od ključnih tema na njegovom vijeću.A tko se tome usprotivio?Gandalf naravno,čak mu je i Elrond htio povjeriti prsten,ali je Gandalf rekao da ga:= Citat =:
Izvorno postao Demon Hunter
1.)Tom ne bi htio prihvatiti.
2.)Prihvatio bi ga samo kada bi ga zamolili svi slobodni narodi svijeta,niti onda ne bi znao zašto je to toliko važno,a i njemu se taj prsten čini kao nevažna stvarca koju bi on zaboravio a onda i zagubio.
Tako je na kraju vijeće zaključilo-složili su se sa Gandalfom da prsten treba biti uništen,a ako ne bude,da će Rivendell,Shire,Lorien biti tvrđave pred opsadom.Tako i Stara šuma,a ako prsten bude Sauronov,Bombadil će biti zadnji koji će pasti,kao što je nekada bio i prvi."A tada će zavladati noć."
za ono prije 2 strane fala svima...
P.S. Jel zna neko jel ima u knjiznicama Tolkienova djela tak da znam dal se isplati dati 50 kn za clanarinu....
:)
Najvjerojatnije ima... ali slobodno pitaš tamo...
Mislim,ej,bez uvrede,ali cuj...Tolkien nije neki novopeceni pisac,nit copycat kao onaj sonjo od Paolinija...= Citat =:
Izvorno postao 1van
Generacije su se odgajale na njegovim pripovjestima,dio modernog fantasya je zasnovan na njemu,a ti pitas, da li ga ima u knjiznicama...
Moli boga da Durin ovo ne procita...
A slušaj, pretpostavljam da se nećeš prijaviti samoSzbog Tolkien (znaš, imaš tamo više knjiga).= Citat =:
Izvorno postao 1van
Znam dosta toga Durin.Ali nisam bas proucavao ta neka pitanja.
Kao tko je Glorfindel,Tom Bombadil ili Morwen....koji su ionako nevazni.
A to priznajem nisam znao,da su htjeli prsten dat Bombadilu.
Il sam zaboravio ili toga nema u Prvom djelu knjige....Starim! :cry:
Ipak ja volim Vilenjake.....i najvise njih proucavam i znam o njima.
Ali priznajem ima dosta toga sto i neznam,ipak nisam toliki frik pa da znam svaki cvjet,sumu ili zgradu u Tolkienovom Gospodaru!
Pozdrav ljudi!
Hehehe,nitko te ne osudjuje,Demon...najvjerojatnije si zaboravio dijelove prve knjige...
Kao sto sam ja dosta zaboravio Silmarilliona,pa se nastojim prisilit da ga ponovo pocnem citat...
I kratka referenca za one koje vole symphonic metal...poslusajte grupu Summoning,svi lyrcisi su iz Tolkienovih djela,a glazba je fenomenalna...pogotovo instumentalne stvari...ja se lagano penjem kao top listener u last.fm-u:D
Ma znam da me niko ne osuđuje..... :)
Stvarno sam zaboravio a i neda mi se citat!
Poslusat cemo to pogotovo ako su bazirani na Tlkinovom Gospodaru Prstenova!
Smirite malo ljudi,vilenjaci,balrozi i ostale rase.Demon,ti ne bi trebao stariti ili se barem duge godine Međuzemlja ne bi trebale toliko očitovati na tebi. :D
Ne znam ni ja baš svaki cvijet,ali znam puno toga što treba tek zaboraviti i opet se prisjetiti toga.
Ma tako ti je to Durine.
Eno knjige stoje a meni se neda citat.A i zaboravio sam dosta toga zato sam mislio,starim!
Stvarno cu se morat malo prisjetit!
Hanon Lle Durin Lord of Moria evo malo pjesma o tvojim junackim danima!
Song of Durin
The world world was young, the mountains green,
No stain yet on the Moon was seen,
No words were laid on stream or stone,
When Durin woke and walked alone.
He named the nameless hills and dells;
He drank from yet untasted wells;
He stooped and looked in Mirrormere,
And saw a crown of stars appear,
As gems upon a silver thread,
Above the shadow of his head.
The world was fair, the mountains tall,
In Elder Days before the fall
Of mighty Kings in Nargothrond
And Gondolin, who now beyond
The Western Seas have passed away:
The world was fair in Durin's Day.
A king he was on carven throne
In many-pillared halls of stone
With golden roof and silver floor,
And runes of power upon the door.
The light of sun and star and moon
In shining lamps of crystal hewn
Undimmed by cloud or shade of night
There shown forever far and bright.
There hammer on the anvil smote,
There chisel clove, and graver wrote;
There forged was bladed and bound was hilt;
The delver mined the mason built.
There beryl, pearl, and opal pale
And metel wrought like fishes' mail,
Buckler and corslet, axe and sword,
And shining spears were laid in horde.
Unwearied then were Durin's folk;
Beneath the mountains music woke:
The harpers harped, the minstrels sang,
And at the gates the trumpets rang.
The world is grey, the mountains old,
The forge's fire is ashen-cold;
No harp is wrung, no hammer falls:
The darkness dwells in Durin's halls;
The shadow lies upon his tomb
In Moria, in Khazad-dűm.
But still the sunken stars appear
In dark and windless Mirrormere;
There lies his crown in water deep,
Till Durin wakes again from sleep.
Gothmog jesi vidio Gurthang uvatio sam vremena i u igraoni imaju max adsl.Pa sam na brzinu stavio sliku.Mislim da je na 52 ili 53 stranici!
Zakaj ja ne mogu naci taj link koji si poslao? WTF?!
Ajde,ponovi link...hvala...
Zna li itko postoji li igdi kompletna mapa Eae u vrijeme Silmarilliona, uključujući Valinor i Aman, te usporedba te mape sa onom nakon potopljenja Belerianda?
Jel' mislis za kupit,ili na netu?= Citat =:
Izvorno postao Orion
Ako je na netu pogledaj,Encyclopedia Of Arda...
Nisi ga niti postao Demon,jer ga niti ja ne vidim. :rotfl:
Postaj još jednom.
A što se tiče mape: http://home.agh.edu.pl/%7Eevermind/imag ... _15web.jpg
Super, možeš štošta toga saznat na toj stranici, ali naša san što sam tražio...= Citat =:
Izvorno postao Gothmog
http://www.geocities.com/area51/7990/map1.htm
E fakat stvarno di je taj link znam da sam ga napravio na 53 stranic. Na kraju.
Ono bez zajebancije.Al nema ga kako to?
Da nije neko uređivo ili nesto!
Ova je mapa skroz odjebana!
Posta cu ponovo!
Evo Stranice za onu Grupu Summoning-e ono stvarno su dobri iako ih nisam sluso.Evo sad malo gledam i citam i sve su pjesem na temu Gospodara Prstenova!
http://www.summoning.info/index.php?sec ... asetypes,1
I sve su im albumi sa nazivima Minas Morgul,Dol Guldur...
Evo jedne:
10. The Legend of the Master Rings
Three rings for the elven kings under the sky
Seven for the dwarf lords in their halls of stone
Nine for mortal men domed to die.
One for the dark lord and his dark throne.
In the land of mordor where the shadows lie.
One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them
one ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.
In the land of mordor where the shadows lie.
The earth was trembling by clovn hooves
and no stars shined in that night forseen
the morgul road was hidden by clowds of doom
and trembled again by the outburst of darkness.
Ten thousand orks and trolls, paralyzed with fear of the nazgul king.
Probaj poslusat instrumentale...totalno atmosfericni...pogotovo pjesma Bauglir...
I nadji,brate vremena za Gurthang,vidis da si zainteresirao i Durina...
Ma jedva cekam da poslusam.Samo mi reci jel ima za Downloadat muziku,sa njihove stranice koju sam posto.
Ili ako imas ti Gothmog,odakle si skido!
Za Gurthang sređeno ponovo cu postat za Gospodara Patuljaka!
Malo smo utihnuli,Durin nam oso na more pa ga nece biti dugo!
Skidao sa Soulseeka,ali ti preporucam da poslusas prvo pjesme sa njihove stranice da znas,koja ti se svidja....a ako budes htio mogu ti citav package poslat na tvoju adresu....
Patuljak na moru...svega cu cut... :D
Ma samo ti meni daj stranicu odakle si skido pa cu si ja skinit sve.
Znaci nisu lose pjesme,naravno da nisu kad su na temu Cica Tolkienovog Gospodara!
Pa da tako ti je to,rat za prsten zavrsen Patuljak na moru,Demon se dosađuje a Gothmog ko zna sta radi!
Eto vidis nema nikog pa malo moram oipak da ne padne u zaborav,i dok se Bradati Cica nevrati!
E a da malo ne zamre tema,sta mislis o Alataru i Pallandu.Malo sam prekopavo po svojim spisima Mitologije od Tolkiena.Pa sam naso da su njih dvojica isli zajedno,kao i sto su dosli na Međuzemlje zajedno!
Pa kaze da su imali zadatak da oslobode ljude sa Istoka,i da u svojoj misiji iz prve nisu uspjeli.I Tolkien kaze da su nestali,ali opet kaze da su mozda pali pod vlast Saurona.
Da i jos nesto bitno kao kad je Sauron bio porazen,da su njih dvojica osnovali Tajne Kultove Magije i da su nastavili Sauronovim putem u Cetvrtom Dobu!
Cujemo se!
Jel ima igdje kupiti kakav paket knjiga J. R. R. Tolkiena?
Kao paket sva tri Gospodara, itd...
Kako mislis u paketu.Imas jedino u paketu Trilogije kao sto je Lord of the Rings.= Citat =:
Izvorno postao FireSpirit
A Sillmarilion,Hobbit,.....itd,se prodaju zasebno nemogu ic u paket jel nisu trilogija.
Ma mozes nac jeftino sve Tolkienove knjige!
FoTR
TTT
Rotk
Silmarillion
Hurinova Djeca
Sasvim prihvatljive cijene,rekao bih...
Da,a malo po malo skupe se sve...evo ja sam za 5 godina uzeo od Algoritma 11 naslova:= Citat =:
Izvorno postao Gothmog
387km=1393kn
J.R.R.Tolkien-Gospodar Prstenova:Prstenova Družina
J.R.R.Tolkien-Gospodar Prstenova:Dvije Kule
J.R.R.Tolkien-Gospodar Prstenova:Povratak Kralja
J.R.R.Tolkien-Silmarillion
J.R.R.Tolkien-Hurinova Djeca
J.R.R.Tolkien-Hobit
J.K.Rowling-Harry Potter I Kamen Mudraca
J.K.Rowling-Harry Potter I Zatočenik Azkabana
J.K.Rowling-Harry Potter I Plameni Pehar
J.K.Rowling-Harry Potter I Red Feniksa
J.K.Rowling-Harry Potter I Princ Mješane Krvi
sve lijepo urađene i prevedene na hrvatski knjige...isplativo :)
počeo sam čitati Hurinovu Djecu i sviđa mi se knjiga...
p.s.@Demon:Hvala na onim stranicama(pp)odlične su :D
Evo, našao sam neke stranice koja pokušavaju dokazati da je Tolkien bio sotonist :rotfl:
http://www.tldm.org/News8/JRRTolkien...wis.Narnia.htm
http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/...and_rings.html
Neki zanimljiviji citati:
"the deeply satanic Lord of the Rings novels and movies"
"He did not mention that the movie is a work of darkness and that Christians who enjoy such satanic entertainment are enjoying fellowship with devils"
"The practice of "Christians" marking themselves with satanic user names and avatars conditions people to think this is acceptable in the sight of God. It is not acceptable for God's people to mark themselves with satanic symbols (Satan's markings), listen to rock and roll (Satan's music) speak in sarcastic and condescending tones (Satan's talk), and read occult and murder novels (Satan's books)."
"Sadly, many professing Christians via the lie that anything done by a 'Christian' is acceptable, have accepted the occult. Tolkien was defined to be a Christian. Satan then got acceptance for his evil occult series of Lord of the Rings by gullible people that believe anything done by a 'Christian' is acceptable..."
"...Satan has used Tolkien and his occult series in very successful attacks against both the lost and professing Christians. The devil succeeded in getting the occult accepted by both groups, the lost and professing Christians and Tolkiens [sic]Sdemonic works played a major role in the process.
Tolkiens [sic]Soccult stories were first published in the 1950's. It is interesting to note that Tolkien took 12 years to write his occult stories and he released them in the 13th year. He was a true occultist and the devil was pleased and blessed his work!"
"John Ronald Reuel Tolkien (1892-1973) was a man of many contradictions. For example:
Back in 1969, he wrote a letter affirming that "the chief purpose of life, for any one of us, is to increase according to our capacity our knowledge of God by all the means we have, and to be moved by it to praise and thanks." Yet the primary focus of his life was his mythical Middle-earth, headed by a distant and impersonal "God" who might confuse rather than clarify the nature of the Biblical God.
In his personal letters (many are included in a book titled The Letters of J. R. R Tolkien), he expressed caution toward occult practices. But he equipped his team of mythical heroes -- the fellowship of the Ring -- with the pagan powers that God forbids. For example, "Gandalf [a helpful wizard]Sis able to wield potent magic... To do battle with the forces of darkness, Gandalf the Grey can call upon not only his spellcraft, but also his staff of power and the Elven sword Glamdring."
He affirmed his faith in the One God who created the universe. But his mythical God stopped creating before the work was finished, then turned the rest over to a group of lesser gods or "sub-creators." In other words, Tolkien invented a hierarchy of deities that defied the Biblical God's wise warnings concerning both real and imagined idolatry."
"One thing is certain; J.R.R. Tolkien was very fascinated by occult symbolism."
"Both Tolkien and Lewis endorsed drinking alcohol and smoking and did so in their personal lives"
" Both J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis were initiated in the H.O.G.D. (The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn), which is a deeply occult, black magic secret society."
Znate šta? Meni je dosta ljudi koji tvrde da netko nije kršćanin samo zbog toga što voli ovo ili ono. Tko su oni da odlučuju? Dosad nisam osobno upoznao nijednog fundamentalista, i to je dobro jer bih mu vrlo vjerojatno otkidao glavu. Pa još tvrdnje da su masoni sotonisti...