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ATI Radeon HD 5870 Rumors

Some hardware loving Germans have come up with some "neue" details regarding the RV870. The details are said to come from an inside source.

Here's the break down: the GPU is going to be a 40nm part. It's going to have 1/4 (or +%25) more shaders compared to the HD 4870. The theoretical computational horsepower is going up to 1.5 TFLOPS, which is pretty insane (the HD 4870 has about 1 TFLOP.)

I'm not sure if this is a translation error, or so some sort of hardware-freaks kinky pet-name, but the new card appears to have the code-name Lil Dragon. Not sure if this is an internal codename or just something some German writer guy with a job similar to my own just came up with just now to throw me off.

The GPU will be very tiny. The die is supposedly 205 mm². Compare this to the RV770 being 256 mm², and the GTX 280 being a big 576 mm².

DirectX 11 is most certainly going to be there. DX11 is generally accepted to be happening in mid 2009, probably with the first DX11 games coming out in the third quarter of 2009. My prediction is going to be that DX11 will actually bring some significant changes, and will exist, unlike DX10, which came (and will leave) with hardly anyone noticing. (And no, you will not have to upgrade to Windows 7 for DX11 -- it'll be a download for Vista.)

ATI looks like it'll stick with GDDR5 memory, tied to a 512 bit memory interface. The source pins the memory bandwidth at 150-160 GB/s, which seems completely reasonable.

And here is where things get really interesting. The HD 5870 supposedly uses some sort of cooling that ATI hasn't tried before. And thanks in part to the small size of the GPU, the HD 5870 X2 is going not have two seperate GPU's -- instead it will be two RV770 cores stacked on top of each other, sort of like Pentium-D style.

If this is the case, theoretically you could put three HD5870X2 into one motherboard, giving you like six times the power of one of HD5870 -- now that'd be performance. Of course, back in the real world, things don't scale very well after 3 GPU's are CrossFire'd. But who knows, maybe ATI will work some CrossFireX magic up, who knows.


CPU3D

Kad bi to otprilike trebalo doc na hrvatsko tržište?

hmmm, jos barem 8 mjeseci...

I vise, jel cijena ce biti paprena :P

dosla nam Saphire ati 4670 s gddr 3 za jako male pare...govori se da je jako isplativa i da tuce nvidia 9600 gso....

http://www.hardveraj.hr/shop/product_in ... cts_id/649
A kolke je to otprilike jacine naspram neke kartice serije x8xx ili HD?

konkurira nvidi-i 9600 GSO

Evo još novosti iz ADM-ATi-a...

HIS (AMD) ATI Radeon HD 4830 512MBS- Review

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/1 ... 30-512mb/1

Ako je vjerovati testovima, ovo čudo je bolje od 8800GT ili sam ja kaj krivo skužio...

gledam malo...i...ima 128 bitnu sabirnicu i niske taktove..puno nize od 3850 s 256 sabirnicom...a isto kostaju...mislim da je 3850 bolji izbor

EDIT: link ti je od 4830 a ne 4670

pa on i govori za 4830 -.-

pa ja imam 3850 i čupa ko blesava, meni za rezu 1280X1024 je odlična.

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Izvorno postao ddoxy

konkurira nvidi-i 9600 GSO

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Ma to sam vec vidio ali me zanima kolko je to slabije/jace od neke npr. 9800GT.

Loš kvartal za Nvidiu

Nvidia očekivano ima znatno niže financijske rezultate u trećem kvartalu u odnosu na isto razdoblje prošle godine, iako su ukupni prihodi i viši od očekivanih.

Kompanija je imala dobit od 61,7 milijuna dolara, 74 posto manje od prošlogodišnjih 235,7 milijuna. Ukupni prihodi su niži za 20 posto i iznose 897,7 milijuna dolara, dok su prošlogodišnji bili 1,12 milijardi. Osim operativnih troškova restrukturiranja od 8,3 milijuna dolara, Nvidia loše rezultate može prvenstveno zahvaliti izuzetno uspješnim ATI-jevim Radeonima.

Problem je i u sporijem prelasku na manje proizvodne procese, tako da je 55-nanometarska proizvodnja predstavljena tek u trećem kvartalu. Nvidia za budući kvartal velike nade polaže u čipset s integriranom grafikom za prijenosnike GeForce 9400M, dok i sama priznaje kako je trenutna ponuda grafičkih kartica za stolna računala vrlo problematična.

bug.hr

Navdno im masovno otkazuju i partneri poput Gainwarda ,EVGA, Albatrona....Izgleda da ova financijska kriza ne štedi nikoga .Tko zna što nas sve čeka.

I7procesori

javi se sa i7 procesorima kad im obave cijenu na tržištu

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Izvorno postao Gwin

javi se sa i7 procesorima kad im obave cijenu na tržištu

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Cijene za Core i7 920, 940, i 965 za količine preko tisuću komada bi trebale biti 284, 562, odnosno 999 dolara

pazi sad ovo.

"trebala bi biti"
"količine preko 1000 komada"

a meni treba

"cijena JE"
"za jedan komad"
"u hrvatskim trgovinama, nakon što platiš PDV, trgovačku maržu itd..

a ako pratimo trenutni trend cijena, pri čemu jedan
Q6600 u americi košta 180$=1.000kn, a kod nas 1.300kn
QX9650 u amera košta 999$=5.500kn, a kod nas 6.400kn
primjećuje se zanimljiv trend od 20-40% skupljih cijena..

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Izvorno postao Gwin

pazi sad ovo.

"trebala bi biti"
"količine preko 1000 komada"

a meni treba

"cijena JE"
"za jedan komad"
"u hrvatskim trgovinama, nakon što platiš PDV, trgovačku maržu itd..

a ako pratimo trenutni trend cijena, pri čemu jedan
Q6600 u americi košta 180$=1.000kn, a kod nas 1.300kn
QX9650 u amera košta 999$=5.500kn, a kod nas 6.400kn
primjećuje se zanimljiv trend od 20-40% skupljih cijena..

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šta tebi treba? nisu još ni izašli
znaš okvirno koliko će bit,odi avionom u us pa kupi jeftinije :rotfl:

ti baš odbijaš shvatit..

zanimat će me info o performansama jednog i7 onaj tren kad objave cijenu u hrvatskoj..
do tog trenutka mi je jednako glupo razmišljat o superPi rezultatu jednog i7 920 koliko mi je glupo razmišljat o kupovini BabyCRAY-a..
da.. ima testova gdje i7 vrti superPi ispod 10s. ali da ću baš ić dat 3.000kn za proc sumnjam.

Bio je jedno vrijeme i kod nas Q6600 dosta jeftin znam da sam ga ja platio 1100kn i onda je za tjedan dana skocio na 1300kn. :D

http://www.guru3d.com/article/intel-cor ... 5-review/1

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Izvorno postao Constantine

http://www.guru3d.com/article/intel-core-i7-920-and-965-review/1

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ima ih dosta vec, evo jedan ovdje... a rezultati su i očekivani, u sintetici i aplikacijama koje znaju iskoristiti sve jezgre/threadove core i7 procevi deru sve pred sobom, dok igre nemogu još iskoristiti tu snagu... zanimljivo je na ovom testu sa legion hw-a usporedba novih igara na high postavkama/vioskim rezama i low postavkama/niskim rezama...

Izašao ATi Catalyst Drivers v8.11.

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Izvorno postao W3DR4N

Izašao ATi Catalyst Drivers v8.11.

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i navodno da nosi poboljšanja performansi za hd48xx seriju kartica, a također i za hd38xx, te crossfire setupe...

anyways, evo loga:

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New Features
This section provides information on new features found in this release of the
Radeon™ Display Driver. These include the following:
• ATI CrossFireX™ Enhancements
• HydraVision Support for Windows XP
• New Display Enhancements
• Performance Improvements
ATI CrossFireX™ Enhancements
This release of ATI Catalyst™ enables users to verify whether an application is running in ATI CrossFireX™ mode. The new option found in the ATI Catalyst™
Control Center system tray, will allow users to verify whether a Direct3D or
OpenGL application is running in ATI CrossFireX™ mode. (The “ATI Cross-
FireX” logo will be shown on screen when the application is running).

HydraVision Support for Windows XP

This release of ATI Catalyst™ introduces HydraVision support for the ATI Catalyst ™ Control Center under Windows XP. HydraVision enables users to more efficiently organize multiple applications across single or multiple displays. Highlights include:
• HydraGrid – A new feature found in HydraVision that divides the Windows desktop into user definable areas. This helps users to more easily move and organize multiple applications.
• HydraVision Hotkeys – The ATI Catalyst™ Control Center Hotkey Manager can assist users to quickly setup and define their HydraVision specific hotkey commands.
• HydraVision Virtual Desktops – Users can configure up to 9 different virtual desktops. This enables users to manage and group multiple applications across each user defined desktop. Application positions, desktop associations and display settings can be saved for every virtual desktop.
• HydraVision Wizard – Using the ATI Catalyst™ Control Center Wizard, users can configure their HyrdaVision settings with ease.

Resolved Issues for the Windows XP Operating System

This section provides information on resolved issues in this release of the ATICatalyst™ Software Suite for Windows XP. These include:
• “Lower Resolution” message displayed when attempting to play HD content using winDVD
• Running certain OpenGL applications may intermittently cause the system to stop responding
• Some desktop corruption may be noticed when playing standard definition video while exiting full screen DOS
• Overlay rotation failing under Windows XP
• Hot unplugging the secondary device with Clone Mode enabled may cause video playback instability
• With Clone Mode and Overlay Theater Mode enabled some video playback may fail to render properly
• Some corruption may be noticed during video playback on Cyberlink winDVD7 and rotate desktop
• Midway “Stranglehold” may become
New Display Enhancements
This release of ATI Catalyst™ Linux introduces support for display scaling to
resize the display devices that support TV timings (480i/p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p)
through either digital (DVI or HDMI) or analog (component) interfaces.
Performance Improvements
The following performance gains are noticed with this release of Catalyst™
FarCry 2 – performance gains of 3 to 10% for Single card mode and 8 to 14% in
Crossfire mode, with some specific configurations showing even greater improvements.
Performance gains were noticed on all Radeon HD4xxx and Radeon
HD3xxx products.
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Clear Sky – performance gains of 6 to 18% in single card settings
and 10 to 30% in CrossfireX mode. Performance gains were noticed on all
Radeon HD04xxx and Radeon HD3xxx products.

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Evo core i7 vec najavljen za prodaju u hr ima u vemilu vec na cjeniku Intel Core i7 920 BOX, 4×2.66GHz za 2.599,00kn i naso sam u ponudi prek nabava neta maticne od Gigabyte sa x58 chipom za 2000kn (Gigabyte EX58 UD5 - Infoplus ducan).

Sad ne izgleda bas skupo ak se uzme da je vemil jedan od skupljih i da je to nova tehnologija koja bi trebala bit znatno bolja, recimo Q9550 kosta skoro isto, a ovaj i7 920 bi trebo bit brzi i bolji od tog procesora.(Jos nam i bozicni popusti dolaze tak da bi ovo mogo i piknut neko, ja sam osobno ocekivao znatno vece cijene bar kod nas) :evil:

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Izvorno postao bibonzo

Evo core i7 vec najavljen za prodaju u hr ima u vemilu vec na cjeniku Intel Core i7 920 BOX, 4×2.66GHz za 2.599,00kn i naso sam u ponudi prek nabava neta maticne od Gigabyte sa x58 chipom za 2000kn (Gigabyte EX58 UD5 - Infoplus ducan).

Sad ne izgleda bas skupo ak se uzme da je vemil jedan od skupljih i da je to nova tehnologija koja bi trebala bit znatno bolja, recimo Q9550 kosta skoro isto, a ovaj i7 920 bi trebo bit brzi i bolji od tog procesora.(Jos nam i bozicni popusti dolaze tak da bi ovo mogo i piknut neko, ja sam osobno ocekivao znatno vece cijene bar kod nas) :evil:

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ja neznam kak ti ali ja na tu cifru od 4600,00 kn dodam par sto kuna i imam zvjer od konfe i zaboli me za core i7, nehalem i triple channel memorije... :P

Božićni popusti ne vrijede u IT industriji. Najveći mit koji se proteže godinama.
Jedini popust je taj što dobiješ božićnicu, pa ti kupnja lakše padne na novčanik. :)

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Izvorno postao W3DR4N

Božićni popusti ne vrijede u IT industriji. Najveći mit koji se proteže godinama.
Jedini popust je taj što dobiješ božićnicu, pa ti kupnja lakše padne na novčanik. :)

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Haha ova je dobra, kak vlada brije nebu bilo ni tog ove godine :rotfl:

Skupo jako,jel bi mogle past cijene tamo negdje do 1-4 mjeseca 2009 godine kad ja planiram prelazak na Intel?

Zna se desiti da bude baš neka komponenta koja te zanima na nekoj božićnoj akciji. Svi se uvijek nadaju, rijetko se ostvari :D Ali u nadi je spas :P