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Harry
18-02-2007, 11:53
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7088/superpitest1ve1.th.jpg (http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superpitest1ve1.jpg)

Kad malo sredim sve u Windowsima što trebam još instalirati,idem malo OC-ati pa da vidimo kolko ovaj gospon Core 2 Duo može povući

Bartuc
18-02-2007, 12:17
Pa i nije nešto. Odi na pcexpert forum, tam imaš "best of" Super Pi, E6400 bi trebal to izračunat za oko 20 sec, možda i manje!

Harry
18-02-2007, 12:20
Da ali s boljom meorijom

Bartuc
18-02-2007, 12:22
Pa tvoj stroj ima odličnu memoriju, uostalom mislim da je SuperPi CPU stress test koji ne ovisi puno o memoriji! A moguće je da oni likovi na pcexpertu imaju OC-ane kompove!

Inaće rezultat je odličan naspram mog, moj je 57 sekundi s konfom iz siga :rotfl:

Harry
18-02-2007, 12:26
Da,mom P4 je trebalo i minuta i nešto heh.

18-02-2007, 12:57
Grijeh je imat takav proc i ocz memu i imat to na default....kakvo glupo pitanje jel sve ok??Pa naravno da je!

Bartuc
18-02-2007, 13:03
Grijeh je imat takav proc i ocz memu i imat to na default....kakvo glupo pitanje jel sve ok??Pa naravno da je!

Uf, ta kombinacija mora da se OC-a ko luda :pray:

Ja sam ipak odlučil da bum lagano odjebal AMD i otišel na C2D!

Nebum ja to više trpil,
Conroe bum ja sebi kupil.

18-02-2007, 13:03
Loše za tebe..jer amd če sad izdat svoje nove proceve!

Bartuc
18-02-2007, 13:06
Loše za tebe..jer amd če sad izdat svoje nove proceve!

Zajebavaš :cry:

Ajme koje dileme čovjek ima prije kupnje novog kompa, pa za izpizditi!

Koji procevi buju došli?

18-02-2007, 13:11
Loše za tebe..jer amd če sad izdat svoje nove proceve!

Zajebavaš :cry:

Ajme koje dileme čovjek ima prije kupnje novog kompa, pa za izpizditi!

Koji procevi buju došli?

Amd 6000+ doce oko 1000dolara ili 500dolara

18-02-2007, 13:12
Po performansama AMD ne kasni puno za Intelom, drugo je stvar OCa jer je Conroe po tome i postao toliko poznat.

* AMD believes the core race is just a repeat of the megahertz race and that adding more cores isn't the best way to go about scaling processor performance in the future. Instead, AMD is cooking up what it calls "Accelerated Processing Units". Accelerated Processing Units, or APUs, will be multi-core chips that include any mix of processor cores and other dedicated processors. Fusion, AMD's integrated CPU and graphics processor, is AMD's first step in that direction.
* In late 2007, AMD will introduce a mobile chip dubbed Griffin that will support split power planes and HyperTransport 3.0, meaning it'll almost certainly be based on AMD's quad-core architecture. Griffin will be accompanied by platforms supporting PCI Express 2.0, DirectX 10-class integrated graphics, DisplayPort video output, and a Universal Video Decoder—essentially a dedicated video processor.

Once P-Rating is a very successful marketing tactic for AMD, making consumers to compare the PR of AMD's processors to the clock speed of Intel's processors. Until now, most of AMD’s processors still adopted the PR scheme for customer’s reference. Nonetheless, the PR figures are no longer useful for comparison as dual core has become common; sometimes it is quite confusing, especially since the launch of Core architecture. AMD plans to discard the PR scheme starting from the next-generation Stars processor.

In the short future, AMD will release its top dual-core processor, Athlon 64 X2 6000+ (3GHz/1MB L2x2), in Q1 2007. Previously named Athlon 64 FX-64, Athlon 64 X2 6000+ is fabricated in 90nm process and has 89W and 125W TDP edition. In addition, AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ is the last division of Citie processor.

ATi’s integrated chipset with DX10 support comes in 2007. It will support 52 PCIe lanes. This is enough to have three PCIe 16X slots and a single 4X slot. It also has HTX support which will allow you to plug the add in card in processor and memory. This avoids going via chipset and is done using Hypertransport marchitecture.

The RD790 is also Hypertransport 3.0 compatible and will be able to rock and roll with new Athlons probably supporting both socket AM2+ and the new socket F. The board supports dual gigabit LAN and it has its own cache memory. The cache memory should help lower latencies and provide more bandwidth to a board.

AMD’s next-generation Star processors will be put into the market and fight with Intel’s Core. To prepare this war, besides the improvement of its microarchitecture, AMD is persuading JEDEC (Joint Electron Device Engineering Council) to put DDR2-1066 as the standard, letting the faster memory be officially supported in Star. The new Star family includes quad-core Agena, mainstream dual-core Kuma, entry dual core Rana, and single-core Spica.

AM2+ and AM2 is compatible to each other. For example, Altair can work in the existing Socket AM2 main board, the only need is BIOS upgrade. Yet Hyper-Transport will get only 2GHz in Socket AM2 main board as ver. 2.0. Furthermore, AM2+ main board is also designed to support AM3. Star will have SSE4A, a derivative edition of SSE4 in which those Intel 64 instructions are not available. Instructions include graphic, video encoding, 3D calculation, multimedia related are all compatible in Star.

Izvor: HKEPC

he RD790 is the successor to AMD’s previously released 580X chipset, formerly known as CrossFire Xpress 3200. The RD790 has plenty of PCI Express lanes to go around. AMD has equipped the RD790 with 42 PCI Express lanes for plenty of expansion capabilities. Thirty-two PCI Express lanes are dedicated to two PCIe x16 slots for CrossFire operation. These lanes can be further divided to deliver four PCIe x8 slots as well. PCI Express 2.0 will be supported as well.

There are ten remaining lanes with six lanes used for PCIe x1, x2, x4 slots and integrated PCIe devices and another four lanes used for the south bridge interconnect. The RD790 supports HyperTransport 3.0 and Socket AM2+. Socket AM2+ will be the new socket used by AMD’s upcoming Stars core based processors. There are two reference boards available: Mako and Wahoo.

According to AMD, the new 65nm G-stepping Brisbane core has the same transistor count as the 90nm F-stepping Windsor core (just shy of 154 million transistors in real terms) that it will eventually replace. As a result of the finer manufacturing process, the Athlon 64 X2 die has been reduced from 183mm to 126mm – just shy of 69% the size of its older brother.

It would seem like progress with AMD's 65 nanometre manufacturing is going well, because the company has quietly introduced a Brisbane-based Athlon 64 X2 3600+. The new chip comes with a 1.9GHz core clock (with a 9.5x multiplier) and 2x512KB of L2 cache. Newegg is stocking the processor for $115 USD.

The online retailer states that the chip must be bought as part of a CPU / motherboard combo that will set you back $168.99. The motherboard included in the bundle is Biostar's TForce 550 (Review) motherboard (nForce 550). The original Athlon 64 X2 3600+ was manufactured on AMD's 90 nanometre SOI process and came clocked at 2.0GHz. Instead of reducing the clock speeds, AMD opted to dock the L2 cache - the X2 3600+ only had 256KB of L2 cache per core back then.

Izvor: Bit-Tech, Tech Report i Motherborads.org

Bartuc
18-02-2007, 13:12
Ma daj, pa to je preveć!

Ja mislim ići na C2D E6300!!! - 1400 kuna

18-02-2007, 13:14
The desktop equivalent of Barcelona, codenamed Agena, is the 65nm flagship of AMD's next-generation desktop processors. Launch frequencies were at "2.4 - 2.6GHz." Previous roadmaps had indicated Agena would debut at 2.7 to 2.9 GHz. Agena will have a 2MB L2 and 2MB L3 cache per CPU. AMD's internal guidance denotes this as a 125W TDP processor. As the flagship, Agena will be the first next-generation desktop launch and is scheduled for Q3'07.

Kuma, the dual-core mainstream next-generation desktop processor was quoted as having launch frequencies of "2.0 - 2.9GHz." Unlike the quad-core Agena processors, Kuma will feature 1MB of L2 and 2MB of shared L3 cache. Kuma will launch with both 89W and 65W TDP variants, but Energy Efficient models scheduled for 35W TDP will follow shortly after.

Rana, the next-generation Sempron successor codename, will launch with frequencies in the 2.1 to 2.3 GHz range. The dual-core CPUs will feature 1MB of total L2 cache, but no L3 cache. Rana's TDP is rated at 65W. Rana will not launch with the Agena flagship; AMD roadmaps have the processor launching at the same time as the Energy Efficient Kuma processors, or approximately Q4'07 if the launch schedule holds together.

Agena FX codename also appears to still exist on the roadmap. The only difference at this point between Agena and Agena FX is that Agena FX will use the Socket 1207+ interface.

Harry
18-02-2007, 13:17
Bojao sam se da će AB9 Pro zezat s DDR2 800 memom jer je bilo nekih problema s Biosom al radi dobro. Heh.

18-02-2007, 13:19
zaš si uzeo 800memu kad sve 667 idu na 800 frekve?!

Bartuc
18-02-2007, 13:19
Ziher bu zvjer taj novi AMD, ali piše da izlazi pred kraj godine a to mi je pre kasno! I još k tome ko zna koliko bu došel proc + matična :cry:

Mislim da je E6300 dovoljan za sve današnje + sve igre kaj buju izlazile tokom sljedeće 2-3-(4) godine!

A skok sa Bartona 2500+ na E6300 je bome drastičan :pray:

Cali
18-02-2007, 13:21
zaš si uzeo 800memu kad sve 667 idu na 800 frekve?!

pa razlika mu je oko 50 kn, zadnjih 2 tjedna su cijene pale za poludit...

ako treba netko memu kupit, kupujte sad, jer su cijene niske totalno...

Harry
18-02-2007, 13:31
Zato da,a ova OCZ ide i više nego što mi treba ali možda zatreba nekad...Btw,u Ve-milu,Kingmax 512 DDR2 800Mhz mislim 346kn a u linksu 415,pa dajte molim vas!!!!Ko tu koga?????Uglavnom,kupujte memu sada!!!!!!!Ja ću dokupiti još vjerojatno ....

tomifish2002
18-02-2007, 13:43
pa zato jer ddr 800 ide do 900~1000 mhz :)

harry moraš ga clocknut na 3.2 1.4v radi ko urica(naravno ne sa stock coolerom). razmišljam da stavim na 3.6ghz @1.5v ali mislim da je to malo bezobrazno. za tak malo para toliko muzike!

18-02-2007, 13:45
iči če ti 100%

Harry
18-02-2007, 13:47
Da,znači ostaje mi i kupovina dobrog coolera jer sam zasad na stocku a on mi se ne čini baš uvjerljivim iako je temp. na 25/27 za jezgre proca. Hm....moram vidjet šta ima u ponudi Ve-mila. Možda čak i neki Zalmanček ako ne taj Big Typhoon.

Bartuc
18-02-2007, 14:03
Da,znači ostaje mi i kupovina dobrog coolera jer sam zasad na stocku a on mi se ne čini baš uvjerljivim iako je temp. na 25/27Sza jezgre proca. Hm....moram vidjet šta ima u ponudi Ve-mila. Možda čak i neki Zalmanček ako ne taj Big Typhoon.

A kolika ti je temperatura u Full Load-u??

Ja sam mislil ubosti AC Freezer 7 uz E6300, mada mi se i sonic tower sviđa al bojim se da mi je malo pre velik!

Harry
18-02-2007, 14:15
Još sam jednom probao na stock super Pi i sad je 26sekundi s tim da sam zatvorio sve dodatne aplikacije. Btw,Bartuc moram izvidit za temp u full loadu,još nisam to...

Bartuc
18-02-2007, 14:18
Ajd Harry kad smogneš vremena i volje vidi kolka je temperatura pa javi tak da znam kakav je stock cooler!

Jel glasan taj cooler kaj imaš? Na kolko rpm-a vrti?

Kiklop
18-02-2007, 14:20
meni je s proc u sigu 1 min i 18 sec :(

Harry
18-02-2007, 14:30
Bartuc- nije glasan baš,btw ako Everest dobro očitava na 1440RPM vrti

Bartuc
18-02-2007, 14:35
Bartuc- nije glasan baš,btw ako Everest dobro očitava na 1440RPM vrti

Pa dobro je to 1500 rpm nije puno, mada mislim da to ide do 2500 rpm-a pri većem zagrijavanju!

Hvala na info, zanimalo me jer neznam dali bum odmah kupil cooler uz proc ili bum moral biti na BOX hlađenju!

Harry
18-02-2007, 14:39
Probat ću kasnije danas možda malo OC na stock ali ne previše pa da vidimo. Možda ne uzmem odmah taj cooler...

Bartuc
18-02-2007, 14:42
Javi nam rezultate!

NITROS
18-02-2007, 14:56
Gledaj sa E6300 su radili na pcekspertu na 15sec super pi. Tak da ovaj isto mora rasturati.

Bartuc
18-02-2007, 14:57
Gledaj sa E6300 su radili na pcekspertu na 15sec super pi. Tak da ovaj isto mora rasturati.

Su oni to neš OC-ali ili je na defaultu tak brz?

Jel ovisi PI o memoriji ili samo o CPU??

EDIT: Koliko tebi dugo računa NITROSE?

Cali
18-02-2007, 15:06
meni se freezer 7 pro kad je komp idle niti ne vrti, nego pasivno hladi... kad pokrenem nešto, onda se vrti na oko 300-400 okretaja...

NITROS
18-02-2007, 15:09
Gledaj sa E6300 su radili na pcekspertu na 15sec super pi. Tak da ovaj isto mora rasturati.

Su oni to neš OC-ali ili je na defaultu tak brz?

Jel ovisi PI o memoriji ili samo o CPU??

EDIT: Koliko tebi dugo računa NITROSE?

oc fkors

Bartuc
18-02-2007, 15:10
meni se freezer 7 pro kad je komp idle niti ne vrti, nego pasivno hladi... kad pokrenem nešto, onda se vrti na oko 300-400 okretaja...

Daj me nemoj :shock:

Pa to je odlično :pray:

Mada sam čuo da se ljudi žale na Freezera jer ima vrlo lošu kontaktnu podlogu coolera!

Si ostavio pastu na njemu onak kak si dobio ili si je mjenjao za nekaj bolje???

Cali
18-02-2007, 15:11
onako kako je... sve tvornički. neda mi se zajebavat više toliko sa tim sitnicama....

Bartuc
18-02-2007, 15:14
Hvala Cali, sad si mi prosvjetlio budučnost :pray:

Čovjeće pa taj coler se nit ne čuje na 500 rpm-a!!

Sve kaj je ispod 2000 je odlično :pray:

Ja imam neko čudovište kaj varira između 3500 i 5000 rpm-a :cry: - ovisno o temp.

Cali
18-02-2007, 15:20
imao sam i ja kad sam imao bartona... on je i pri tim okretajima bio na 50-55 stupnjeva.... bila su to vremena... he he

stvar je u intelovim matičnima koje automatski putem biosa reguliraju vrtnju coolera... naravno to je opcija...

kod amd-a je drukčije, on je malo kompliciraniji sa cool n quiet tehnologijom... koja baš i nije nešto po mom mišljenju.

bartuc, imaš postova skoro kao i ja, a vidi nam razliku u datumima registracije... :pray:

Bartuc
18-02-2007, 15:23
imao sam i ja kad sam imao bartona... on je i pri tim okretajima bio na 50-55 stupnjeva.... bila su to vremena... he he

Točno tak :rotfl:

Meni je temp. na loadu 52 celzija a cooler na 5000 okretaja, al i to ima prednosti, ak igraš neku avio simulaciju imaš live sound vrtnje turbine na propelercu :rotfl:

EDIT: Ne znam dal sam te to pital al jesi li zadovoljan sa DS4 matičnom? Jel velka razlika između DS3 i DS4 jerbo ja bi si uzel DS3 matičnu!??!?

Cali
18-02-2007, 15:24
cool :D

Bartuc
18-02-2007, 15:25
A štaš, volim pomagat, i trudim se što manje spamat :D

Imaš EDIT pitanje post iznad!

Cali
18-02-2007, 15:28
za sad sve odlično, nikakvih prigovora nemam...

razlika između ds3 i ds4 je u crossfire i sli podršci, firewireu, više usb-a, heatpipeu i još nekim sitnicama kod ds4.

ukoliko ti te stvari nisu bitne, slobodno uzmi ds3, flashaj novi bios i piči.

Bartuc
18-02-2007, 15:30
za sad sve odlično, nikakvih prigovora nemam...

razlika između ds3 i ds4 je u crossfire i sli podršci, firewireu, više usb-a, heatpipeu i još nekim sitnicama kod ds4.

ukoliko ti te stvari nisu bitne, slobodno uzmi ds3, flashaj novi bios i piči.

Pa iskreno i ne trebaju mi te opcije!!

Jedino kaj se bojim je flashanje biosa, nisam nikad to radio i jednostavno se bojim :cry:

Kaj ak sjebem neš :shock: Kolike su šanse da se sjebe matična flešanjem??

Kad formatiram komp jel mi ostaje novi bios ili moram ponovno flešati??

Harry
18-02-2007, 16:12
Probao sam 3d Mark 05 izvrtit (06 nisam još nabavio a i mislim da treba SP2 a ja ga ne mislim stavljat jer ga mrzim) i na stock-u imam 9532. E sad....ne znam dal sam pogasio sve tipa AA,AFi to i da je bilo sve na defaultu u samom 3d Marku. Svjetski rekord je btw 33953 marka.

Bartuc
18-02-2007, 16:16
Probao sam 3d Mark 05 izvrtit (06 nisam još nabavio a i mislim da treba SP2 a ja ga ne mislim stavljat jer ga mrzim) i na stock-u imam 9532. E sad....ne znam dal sam pogasio sve tipa AA,AFi to i da je bilo sve na defaultu u samom 3d Marku. Svjetski rekord je btw 33953 marka.

Ma to ti je odličan score! Uvjek ti se gleda reza na default postavkama tak da bolje da nisi ništa dirao! A i nemreš niš namjestiti sa trial verziom!

Ak imaš ADSL i veliki paket skini 3dMark06 cca550Mb pa nam javi rezultate!

LINK za download: http://www.futuremark.com/download/3dmark06/

- dolje imaš mirrore s kojih skidaš. VAŽNO: neki mirrori daju brzine od 3Kb/s a neki do 100Kb/s tak da pazi od kud skidaš!

Harry
18-02-2007, 16:17
Imam Flat pa nije problem nego me zanima dal se može pokrenut i bez SP2?

18-02-2007, 16:20
System Requirements
- DirectX®9 compatible graphics adapter with support for Pixel Shader 2.0 or later, and graphics memory of 256 MB or above.*
- Intel® or AMD® compatible processor running on 2.5 GHz or above.
- 1GB system memory or more.
- 1.5GB of free hard disk space.
- Windows®XP operating system with the latest Service Pack and updates installed.
- DirectX 9.0c (December 2005) installed (download) with the latest updates.
-Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 installed, for some 3DMark functionality (download).
- Microsoft Excel 2000, 2003 or XP for some 3DMark functionality.
- Microsoft DirectX 9.0c (December 2005) System Development Kit (download) is required to run the image quality test using the reference rasterizer.
- * In order to run the HDR/SM3.0 graphics tests, a DirectX 9 compatible graphics adapter with support for Pixel Shader 3.0, 16 bit floating point textures and 16 bit floating point blending is required.

Harry
18-02-2007, 16:22
E da i ovaj....imam tvorničke drivere za grafu tak da ću tek kasnije malo stavit nove,mislim da je 7.1 verzija najnovija od Atija. Bar sam tamo našao tu...Znači treba SP2. E onda ništa od toga.Da....CPU score u 05 je 6953

Harry
22-02-2007, 16:42
Obećao sam rezultate a na kraju sve do danas nisam stigao malo isprobavati. E pa evo sada. Ovo je pri FSB375 na ploči,CPU@3000Mhz. Grafu za 3Dmark05 sam ostavio na normali,ništa dizano. Rekli smo da E6400 nije nešto u Super Pi ako nije rez oko ili ispod 20sekundi na 1M. Na prvoj strani je to bilo 28 a sada,sa stock coolerom još uvijek i na 3Ghz evo ga:

CPU-Z prikazuje podatke o trenutnom "stanju u kokošinjcu":
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2095/cpuzyd1.th.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cpuzyd1.jpg)

Super-PI rez @3000Mhz
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4382/superpirezcpu3000mhznf0.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superpirezcpu3000mhznf0.jpg)

Pošto me imageshack trenutno zeza,čim uspijem hostati stavit ću i ostale rezultate testova pri 3Ghz. Isprobao sam testove brzine u Everestu (Ultimate 2007 edition) pa ću i to staviti. Imam samo jedno pitanje. Ako je netko već dizao voltažu kod ovog proca,kolko bi bilo poželjno stavit da nije previše?

Bartuc
22-02-2007, 16:57
E to je sad već nešto Harry!

Svaka čast, odličan PI rezultat! Fino si ti to digel :bravo:

Svinjoguz
22-02-2007, 17:56
sam ti zemi conroe to ti je preimba proc...

tomifish2002
22-02-2007, 20:23
evo ti par savjeta. nemoj ići preko 400x8. e6400 su stabilni do 3.3-3.4 rijetko koji ide više. nemoj ga voziti baš na rubu. na 3.2ghz bi trebao raditi na 1.4v. vrtio sam ga i na 3,6 ghz 1.5v ali nije prolazio occt 1.1.0. možda da sam se malo potrudio s naponima bi i radio na 3.6 ali već na 3.2 daje bezobrazne performanse za tako malo para. od hladnjaka je tt big typhoon uvjerljivo najbolji i najtiši hladnjak koji postoji. zalmani su katastrofa u usporedbi s njim. temp su mi idle 30-35c load 50-55c što je do yaya. memoriju nemoraš clockat jer zbog mem kontrolera na ploči nema nikakvog real life utjecaja na performanse. čak niti između cl4 i cl5 memorije.