Origin - EA-ov odgovor Steamu

[Arbiter of Change]

Da, dobro ste pročitali. EA planira napraviti rivala Steamu otvaranjem novog servisa za digitalnu distribuciju.
http://kotaku.com/5808095/ea-is-launchi ... competitor (http://kotaku.com/5808095/ea-is-launching-its-own-steam-competitor)

According to a report on the Wall Street Journal, this service will function much like Steam, as a single store and gaming platform on the PC that will let customers "purchase, download and keep track of" their games.

It's even lifting Steam's social features, and will also feature cross-platform notifications that will "let gamers on a variety of devices broadcast messages to online friends when they defeat online opponents or accomplish other gaming goals."

So I can be eating dinner and an asshole friend message me on my phone saying he scored some mad Dragon Age loot? Wonderful.

[Aral]

Čudnim se kaj nije prije. Pc gamimg go go!

[*Fila*]

ako ne budemo mogli dodavat frendove bez kupljenih igara onda bok

[cham3leon]

U prijevodu to znači da ćemo uz svaku jebenu EA-ovu igru morati instalirati gigabajt bloatwarea i napraviti 2 ili 3 accounta koji nam ne trebaju, a prije pokretanja igre morat ćemo se laktariti sa sto hiljada društvenih featurea koji nam isto ne trebaju jer ima više tih forsiranih socijalnih servisa koji dolaze uz igre nego što ima i igrača koji ih koriste.

[Kid A]

Pa da, zvuci super

[sickpetey]

Ne želim.

Možda samo ako se nadje neki dobar popust za neku igru al ne vjerujem da ce biti nesto mega bolje od steama.

[Tsaя]

Totalno nepotrebno.
Šta ću sad igrat igre na 5 hiljada servisa, neću znat ni šta je na čemu...

[W3DR4N]

Iako je konkurencija u načelu dobra, igrači su naviknuli na Steam i tamo posjeduju ogromnu knjižnicu igara, pa ih ne zanima seliti se na potpuno novi servis. Eventualno još koriste GOG, koji ima jeftine, starije, DRM-free naslove u ponudi.

Da bi Origin uspio, mora imati nešto više, a to bi po mom mišljenju trebalo biti.
-unificirana cijena za sve regije, jer želim plaćati igre u dolarima
-besplatne PC verzije za kupce istih konzolaških igara

O ovom drugom sam pričao prije godinu dana ili dvije, kad ste rekli da je to notorna glupost. Ipak, pokazalo se kao pun pogodak za Valve koji je to napravio s Portalom 2. EA na ovome može itekako profitirati, samo treba odigrati pametno.

Store se otvara u 18 sati, pa se nadam da neće pregoriti serveri.

[Babitz]

Već mi je dosta imat steam i mirandu otvorene. Ne treba mi još neki kurac jesti rame. Volim minimalno i pregledno, a EA su šupci ionako pa me nije briga. Osim ako svemir implodira i obistini se ovo o čemu Vedran priča.

[W3DR4N]

Očekivano odličan.
Igre su u Eurima i skupe ko sam vrag.
Nikakvi popusti.
Samo EA-ove igre.

GG :thumbs2:

[Arbiter of Change]

Glumiti iznenađenost ili ne, pitanje je sad.

[Babitz]

Uh, doći će Steamu crni petak ako EA ovako nastavi.

[Arbiter of Change]

Glavno da nije već počelo.
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/06/03/ea-ta ... ad-the-ol/ (http://www.joystiq.com/2011/06/03/ea-takes-on-steam-with-origin-the-only-place-to-download-the-ol/)

Origin will also host "exclusive limited edition copies" of EA titles like Battlefield 3, FIFA 12, Alice: Madness Returns, and Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning. The biggest attraction for Origin, however, is likely to be Star Wars: The Old Republic, which is being offered in downloadable format exclusively on Origin.

[Maloki]

Bit će ovo promašaj.

[Deadwalker]

Koristim 3 digitalna servisa - SteamSofkors jer uz kvalitet samog servisa uvijek se nađu odlične igre na sniženjima, Gamesplanet (od Game.co.uk-a) koji ima definitivno najpovoljnije cijene digitalnih verzija igara i non-stop atraktivne igre na rasprodaji (prošli tjedan se Civ 5 nudio za samo 15 funti, ovaj tjedan Heroes 5 Gold za 10 funti) te GoodOldGames gdje sam si pokupovao meni neke omiljene stare naslove da ih mogu igrati bez ikakve muke na novim Windowsima.

Origin prema ponuđenom do sada nema neke šanse i kako rekoše Weky, sumnjam da će se ljudi sa Steama ići seliti na takav ograničavajući servis.

[W3DR4N]

Ali stvarno su trebali to što sam rekao. Kad se toliko hvale društvenom komponentom, trebali su jednostavno osmisliti linkanje Steam, PlayStation Network i Xbox Live servisa. Začas bi dobio hrpu igru na servisu, a to znači da bi i nastavio tamo kupovati. Ovako, od nule, ćorak.

[Arbiter of Change]

EA opet počinje. Pitanje je hoće li povuće SVE svoje naslove i hoćemo li vidjeti nekakve kompenzacije.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/15/crysi ... on-origin/ (http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/15/crysis-2-vanishes-from-steam-now-listed-as-only-on-origin/)

Crysis 2 has vanished from the Steam store, apparently pulled by EA so that they can sell the game exclusively through their new digital store, Origin.

[Kenyi]

Ovaj EA stvarno radi maloumne stvari :(

[Kid A]

http://i.imgur.com/guctZ.jpg

[Kenyi]

Mislim da je malo preblag termin pucanje u nogu za ovo šta oni rade :D

[Praetorian]

http://www.hcl.hr/vijesti-crysis-2-povu ... 12-17.html (http://www.hcl.hr/vijesti-crysis-2-povucen-sa-steama-5912-17.html)

Počelo je.

[Wolfwrath]

Nije da mi je žao...

[Tsaя]

A što je sa ljudima koji su kupili tu igru preko steama?

[Wolfwrath]

Mislim da nema veze sa njima. Da svaki put kad se neka igra tako povuče ljudi popuše,odavno bi steam propao.

[Arbiter of Change]

Umro sam jer sam pročitao njegovim glasom. :)

http://i.imgur.com/QEiGt.jpg

[Arbiter of Change]

EA stvarno ne želi da ljudi koriste Origin ili što?
http://tos.ea.com/legalapp/WEBTERMS/US/en/PC/#section5

We do not guarantee that any Content or Entitlement will be available at all times or at any given time or that we will continue to offer particular Content or Entitlements for any particular length of time. We reserve the right to change and update Content and Entitlements without notice to you. SIf you have not used your Entitlements or Account for twenty four (24) months or more and your Account has associated Entitlements, your Entitlements will expire and your Account may be cancelled for non-use.S Once you have redeemed your Entitlements, that content is not returnable, exchangeable, or refundable for other Entitlements or for cash, or other goods or services.

[Maloki]

Dakle, ako ne koristiš pojedini sadržaj ili account više od 24 mjeseci, EA ti oduzima sadržaj odnosno poništava account?
:pray:

[McPingvin_v2.0]

Čudi me da EA radi ovako retardirane poteze :|

[Deadwalker]

Mnogo zanimljivo.
Baš me zanima što će gamerske mase reći na to.

[Grim]

Ali stvarno ne shvaćam koji im je, oni stvarno ne žele da itko koristi Origin. Koja hrpa debila. :))))

[Babitz]

Mene je EA davno prestao čuditi ičime. :D

[Arbiter of Change]

Igraju na ekskluzivnost. :eyebrows:

[Mirogamemasta]

Šta reći nego :rotfl: na sve ovo.
Jedino što me zanima da li EA ima dovoljno ludih gamera da održavaju Origin.
Ili moraju skroz promjeniti pravila ili će im projekt propasti.

[Kid A]

So, I have Mass Effect 1 and 2 on Steam, and it's known that you can activate your EA games from Steam on Origin. So, I'm like "Well, let's give Origin a shot, I have a few games on an Origin account anyway"
I try the ME1 key a few times on the Origin program, nothing happens. I find a product activation key page, and successfully activate Mass Effect. It asks me to create a third ID to tie to my EA account, and says I just need to download EADM to get it. I look in my Origin library, and it's not there. So, I do live chat for help:
Thank you for choosing EA. A representative will be with you shortly.
All representatives are currently assisting others. Your estimated wait time is 1 minutes and 38 seconds. Thanks for your patience.
All representatives are currently assisting others. Your estimated wait time is 2 minutes and 5 seconds. Thanks for your patience.
All representatives are currently assisting others. Your estimated wait time is 1 minutes and 10 seconds. Thanks for your patience.
You are now chatting with 'Clayton'
Clayton: Thank you for contacting Origin Help. My name is Clayton. How may I assist you today?
you: Heya!
you: Well, I have Mass Effect 1 and 2 Digital Deluxe on Steam
you: and I'm trying to activate them on my Origin account
you: but....I just can't quite figure it out
you: I did the thing at https://activate.ea.com/applybeslddcode.do#
you: and it said it tied it to my account...but, I don't see it in my Origin library
Clayton: There is no way to transfer this download
Clayton: Some games work for Transferring to Origin, but none are supposed to and we do not support it
you: After activating your product, you will need the EA Download Manager application to download your product. If you do not have the EA Download Manager, you can download the application with the provided link bellow. If you already have the EA Download Manager, simply login with your EA account used to activate the product. The EA Download Manager automatically verifies that you are the licensed user of your product, so it must be installed on your PC in order for you to download any product activated. Download the EA Download Manager
you: that's what's on the web page
you: after I successfully activated it
you: Product Successfully Activated You have successfully activated the following product(s): GAME-MASSEFFECT for your account: ********@gmail.com
you: being at the top
Clayton: And the game is not on your list?
you: I've tried refreshing my origin library several times, and it just shows Burnout Paradise and Battlefield: Bad Company 2 Digital Deluxe
Clayton: Like I said though, we do not support the transfer, so there is nothing I can do about this
you: but your site said it was successfully activated?
Clayton: Yes, but it's not supposed to work
Clayton: That is why it is not working
you: Well, thank you anyway, Clayton
Clayton: No problem, sorry
Clayton: Thank you for contacting Origin Support
Thank you for chatting with us. Please click the "Close" button on the top right of the chat window to tell us how we did today.
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* This is nonsense, they have no idea how their site/platform is running.

[Chupacabra]

If you read the End User License Agreement for Origin it states that by installing Origin you're giving EA the right to monitor your PC and to make a profile of you, including what programs you have installed (and whether you have any illegally downloaded material), what websites you use, etc., and that EA reserves the right to share or sell this information to third parties.

Source: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/ ... -you-sleep (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.308724-EAs-Origin-is-creepy-and-watches-you-sleep)

Iskreno, sad prvi put cujem za taj Origin, ne znam ni sto je to, ali znam da se klonim EA-ovih proizvoda.

[Babitz]

Origin ti je EA-ov Steam. EA je počeo povlačiti igre sa Steama i forsirati igrače time da njihove (s)hitove kupuju isključivo preko njihovog servisa. Npr. Battlefield 3 moš preorderat samo preko Origina.

Osim toga, ako ne igraš niš dvije godine, ukidaju ti acc.

[Mirogamemasta]

If you read the End User License Agreement for Origin it states that by installing Origin you're giving EA the right to monitor your PC and to make a profile of you, including what programs you have installed (and whether you have any illegally downloaded material), what websites you use, etc., and that EA reserves the right to share or sell this information to third parties.
Kad god pomislim da nisu mogli niže pasti... oni sami sebi pucaju u nogu. Ma bravo, ajde sad još u drugu.

[Constantine]

If you read the End User License Agreement for Origin it states that by installing Origin you're giving EA the right to monitor your PC and to make a profile of you, including what programs you have installed (and whether you have any illegally downloaded material), what websites you use, etc., and that EA reserves the right to share or sell this information to third parties.

Source: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/ ... -you-sleep (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.308724-EAs-Origin-is-creepy-and-watches-you-sleep)

Iskreno, sad prvi put cujem za taj Origin, ne znam ni sto je to, ali znam da se klonim EA-ovih proizvoda.
rofl,ovo je pre smijesno da bi bilo istinito.

[Kid A]

Auuuuuu ne bi ovo sad instalirao pa da mi plate. Krsenje svih mogucih zakona o privatnosti

[DJ Not Nice]

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[ScorpiuS]

Auuuuuu ne bi ovo sad instalirao pa da mi plate. Krsenje svih mogucih zakona o privatnosti
Uh, dobro da sam došao ovdje i pročitao ovo, inače bi slijepo prihvatio ToA i instalirao ovaj spyware na moj komp.

[Deadwalker]

Vi kao da ste ste jučer rodili.
Danas na temelju dostupnih podataka (samo onih javnih primjerice) netko kome to treba može napraviti u sitne detalje vaš profil - od onih osnovnih podataka, preko hobija pa do toga gdje ste jučer ručali (ovo je moj profesor s faksa dokazao). Ukoliko mislite da EA ovo jedini radi, jako krivo mislite. Ne opravdavam EA, no od svojevrsnog monitoringa danas se praktički nemoguće zaštiti.

I da, znači da nitko na ovom forumu ne bude igrao Battlefield 3? :D
Pošto će igra zahtijevati obvezno korištenje origin accounta...

[croat1gamer]

Ja samo čekam Arala. :)

Iako, pomalo me zabrinjava sto ce Origin biti tako invazivna aplikacija.

[Deadwalker]

Osobno sam aplikaciju isprobao da vidim koje sve opcije nudi, no daleko je to od mogućnosti Steama. S druge strane je pozitivno da Valve dobije nekakvu konkurenciju, kakva god ona bila. Sad kada izađe B3, Origin će početi koristiti masa ljudi.

[Kid A]

Vi kao da ste ste jučer rodili.
Danas na temelju dostupnih podataka (samo onih javnih primjerice) netko kome to treba može napraviti u sitne detalje vaš profil - od onih osnovnih podataka, preko hobija pa do toga gdje ste jučer ručali (ovo je moj profesor s faksa dokazao). Ukoliko mislite da EA ovo jedini radi, jako krivo mislite. Ne opravdavam EA, no od svojevrsnog monitoringa danas se praktički nemoguće zaštiti.

I da, znači da nitko na ovom forumu ne bude igrao Battlefield 3? :D
Pošto će igra zahtijevati obvezno korištenje origin accounta...

Ja bih prije rekao da se EA marketinski tim juce rodio :)
Da se razumijemo, sve ovo sto EA radi s Originom radi i Valve sa Steamom samo sto kod jednih treba citati izmedju redova dok je to EA valjda odlucila plasirati kao promidzbu lol.

Ali eto Valve ima dugogodisnju reputaciju i jak fanbase kod gamera pa makar cekali HL2 Ep3 jos deset godina dok ce EA uvijek biti materijal za bacanje drvlja i kamenja.
Doduse Valveov odlican customer support i hrpa dobrog viralnog marketinga ih je dovela do te tocke dok je EA imala par primjetnih greskama u pocetkim koracima. Al znas kako kazu, prvi utisak je nekad najbitniji (bez obzira sta kasnije radio)

[Xero]

Steam je u Beti već 5 godina.

[Deadwalker]

@Kid A
Ovo si dobro sročio :)
Na kraju krajeva ljudi će svejedno koristiti Origin (a i ja ću dakako jer ne mislim zbog aplikacije propustiti The Old Republic), a sad će se barem jedno tjedan dana još pričati o Originu. Ja uvijek kažem da je negativan marketing, dobar marketing.
Čitao sam baš komentare na Gameinformeru na ovu vijest i ono, ljudi masovno bičaju po EA-u i hvala Valve, a Valve cijelo vrijeme radi istu stvar. :)

A možda i ne budem trebao koristiti Origin :D


"You are not required to use the Origin desktop client to download, patch or play the game client for Star Wars: The Old Republic. This applies whether you purchase The Old Republic via Origin.com or from a retailer in boxed form. You will not be forced to install the Origin desktop client. There are still various consumer benefits to the client itself, but it's not required for The Old Republic."

Na kraju krajeva, mene ne smeta toliko nametljiv klijent, nego više onaj dio gdje mi EA može ukinuti račun nakon dvije godine nekorištenja.

[Razzarach]

Boli me rac, kao da sam kanio kupit BF3, igrat cu singleplayer.

[Babitz]

Ima razlika između Valveovog i EA-ovog profiliranja. Valveovo je anonimno i nije toliko invazivno dok EA želi prodavat vaš profil oglašivačima.

[Deadwalker]

Aha, ti zbilja vjeruješ korporaciji kao što je Valve da ne radi to cijelo vrijeme?
Right.

[Babitz]

Actually, Steam is different. According to Steam's EULA, you don't agree to as much, and it is much less vague. Steam is very specific in what sort of information you let them use - your gameplay stats, forum info, an anything you voluntarily put on your profile. It doesn't include anything about your internet browsing habits or what software is on your PC.


Steam does do a hardware survey, but they don't sell that information. It's publicly available http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey, the data is collected anonymously, and you can opt out of it.

Origin doesn't let you opt out of this, it's tied to your account so they can market to you, and then they sell this information to 3rd parties.

There is a big difference.

It makes sense that a publisher would want to know this information, and it's good for developers to know what kind of hardware people have. But don't sell it, and don't force me to be a part of it.

[Arbiter of Change]

Herp herp. Derp.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/08 ... -makeover/ (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/08/26/origin-eula-gets-a-makeover/)

We never did hear back from EA about the Origin EULA thing, but Giant Bomb have noticed that the EULA has been substantially redrafted to sound less sinister.SThe new EULA is a bit more of protestation of innocence than the original legalese: “EA knows that you care how information about you is collected, used and shared, and we appreciate your trust that we will do so carefully and sensibly. Information about our customers is an important part of our business, and EA would never sell your personally identifiable information to anyone, nor would it ever use spyware or install spyware on users’ machines.” It does seem like the rest of EULA means you are still basically agreeing to the same thing, however.

[Maloki]

Aha, ti zbilja vjeruješ korporaciji kao što je Valve da ne radi to cijelo vrijeme?
Right.
Lol gaming teorije zavjere.

[Deadwalker]

Profit iznad svega :)

U vezi EA-ovog prepravljivanja EULE-e, očekivana reakcija.

[cham3leon]

Kad napraviš Facebook account ne moraš dati ni trunku osobnih informacija. Hell, ne moraš ni koristiti vlastito ime. Naravno, uvijek ima i takvih koji vole da cijeli svijet može znati gdje su ručali jučer, ali možeš praktički koristiti i facebook i druge internetske servise tako da daješ informacije o sebi koje želiš da se znaju. S druge strane, kad instaliraš ovako nešto prisiljen si davati osobne informacije.

[Arbiter of Change]

Uskoro i ostale igre na Originu pored EA-ovih naslova.
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/3713 ... stalls.php (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/37136/EAs_Origin_Hosting_ThirdParty_Content_Very_Soon_4M _Client_Installs.php)

"Initially, Origin is set up to deliver EA games, but very soon, we'll be delivering third-party content to Origin," said EA CFO Eric Brown at a UBS conference in London today.

[Deadwalker]

Sasvim očekivano, ali ne mislim mijenjati servis pošto mi je Steam i više nego dovoljan. Origin me ne privlači apsolutno ničim, jedino možda ToR-om :)

[hansi]

Aha, ti zbilja vjeruješ korporaciji kao što je Valve da ne radi to cijelo vrijeme?
Right.

da

[Arbiter of Change]

Skoro 4 milijuna korisnika.
http://kotaku.com/5838839/eas-origin-pr ... ur-million (http://kotaku.com/5838839/eas-origin-prepares-for-third%20party-content-as-install-base-approaches-four-million)

[Arbiter of Change]

Ugledao se EA na Sony. Ako uđemo u EU kako je planirano bar ćemo biti zaštićeni od ovoga. :)
http://www.gamersmint.com/ea-follows-so ... igins-eula (http://www.gamersmint.com/ea-follows-sonys-move-insert-class-action-prevention-clause-into-origins-eula)

Once you accept the TOS, you’ll be denied the right to sue and have a jury trial, and you’ll only be allowed to bring in individual cases against the company.SSimilar to Sony, EA has also offered an opt-out clause which requires a user to submit a written application to EA. As mentioned earlier, this is due to a recent supreme court ruling which was in favor of this clause.

[Deadwalker]

Sada još Microsoft izmjeni EULU-u pa će onda svi ostali izdavači također.

[kulamasta]

Mislim da netko podigne tuzbu na tu EULU da bi je svaki iole ozbiljniji odvetnik dobio bez problema

[Deadwalker]

Pa ono, da. Koliko sam ja upoznam sa pravom, ova EULA krši ustav.

[kulamasta]

Jasno

Ne moze tebi netko odredjivat kako ces ti nekog tuzit

[Babitz]

Ta EULA krši zdrav razum. To je kao da ti u ugovor na radu dopišem da me ne smiješ tužit ako ti ne isplatim ni jednu plaću.

[Kid A]

Ovo je sramota sta se danas desava. Sad se bavimo pitanjima sudskih tuzbi i potpisivanja ugovora prilikom kupovine konzole. Tuzno kakvo je jadno korporativno smece Sony postao

[Deadwalker]

Ah, nije Sony jedini takav.

[Babitz]

To ne znači da je u redu ili prihvatljivo.

[Deadwalker]

Ne vidim gdje sam to rekao. Samo ističem tužnu istinu.

[Kid A]

http://i.imgur.com/axyZT.png

[Arbiter of Change]

Ta EULA krši zdrav razum. To je kao da ti u ugovor na radu dopišem da me ne smiješ tužit ako ti ne isplatim ni jednu plaću.
I ne prolazi u EU kao takva jer si u biti prisiljen složiti se s njom ako želiš igrati, tj. nemaš stvarnog izbora.

[McPingvin_v2.0]

Počeo sam koristiti Origin jer ću ga morati imati zbog par igara (FIFA 12, BF3, a onda mogu i ToR) i... Užas.

Instalacija FIFA-e: ubaciš dvd, instaliraš Origin. Origin se updatea tako da napravi potpuno novu instalaciju. Nakon dvije instalacije Origina, kreće instalacija igre. Igra se instalira i počne updateati...

http://i.imgur.com/x2sG7.jpg

http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/entries/icons/original/000/005/545/OpoQQ.jpg?1302279173

[Razzarach]

Sta je falilo normalnom multiplayeru i patchanju kao kod npr. CoD-a 4.
Tek sad sam shvatio koliko je Origin retardiran.

[Xero]

Ista fora je na steamu. Ne kupuješ igru kupuješ ključ.

[McPingvin_v2.0]

Da, ali taj ključ ne može postati zaboravljen za dvije godine. Možeš otići offline i igrati što želiš. Na Originu ne. Neman i nikakve statistike, koliko sam čega igrao... A i sama FIFA ne dopušta friendly match s nekim kog nemaš na friends listi. Roflmaoce.

[Hexfire]

Ako netko slučajno igra FIFU 12 nek me doda na Origin.

Origin ID: Hexfire411

[Kid A]

http://i.imgur.com/pzcfE.jpg

[McPingvin_v2.0]

O bože :(

[Deadwalker]

:(

[kulamasta]

http://i.imgur.com/pzcfE.jpg

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Krvavo...

:rotfl:

[croat1gamer]

Podsjeca me zasto volim fizicke medije.

[cham3leon]

Mene zašto ne volim EA.

[Kid A]

price lika koji je radio za EA, prestrasno
http://i.imgur.com/6Me7v.png

[Scarecrow]

stravaaa...

[Hexfire]

Dosta stvari tu zvuči nategnuto, npr. da je netko umro zbog Mythic fijaska. Moguće da je to stvarno napisao zaposlenik zbog grižnje savjesti, ali je isto tako moguće da je to napisao neki random klinac ili zaposlenik koji je otpušten pa sadtraži nekakvu vrstu osvete.

[*Fila*]

da i? sad ćemo plakati što je ea takav...a daj se malo osvrnite pa vidite u kakvim vam uvjetima roditelji rade u Hrvatskoj.
Nabijem ih na onu stvar, samo da dobijem key i aktiviram si bf i onda me nema :)
btw. key mogu aktivirat na onom accu na kojem sam betu igrao? da ne bi bilo nismo znali pa smo popušili

[Duke of Earl]

Dosta stvari tu zvuči nategnuto, npr. da je netko umro zbog Mythic fijaska. Moguće da je to stvarno napisao zaposlenik zbog grižnje savjesti, ali je isto tako moguće da je to napisao neki random klinac ili zaposlenik koji je otpušten pa sadtraži nekakvu vrstu osvete.
Ovo. Teško mi je prihvatiti svjedočanstvo random lika na internetu kao neoborivi dokaz nečega. Možda je bilo tako, možda nije, ali onaj tvoj tekst zapravo ne daje odgovore na ništa, s obzirom da ga je mogla napisati i 70.-godišnja baba iz Nigerije kojoj je jednostavno dosadno, po onome što mi znamo.

[croat1gamer]

Netko je umro zbog Mythic fijaska, te je bio sudski postupak, naravno sve ispod radara, te je zavrsilo sa izvansudskom nagodbom?
To jednostavno ne mogu popušit.

[sickpetey]

Mythic je meni obnavljao sub za warhammer online 5 mjeseci bez da sam ja to trazio i skidao pare sa racuna i nikako nisam mogao to rijesiti preko email-a. Zvao sam support u Americi tjedan dana dok mi se napokon netko nije javio,na divnu srecu su prekinuli sub.

[Maloki]

Ja biram da vjerujem u ovo.

[Deadwalker]

Sumnjam da je ovo gore istina, no kada je EA u pitanju, sve je moguće

[Xero]

Meni je Blizzard popio svu cedevitu, ubio psa i zapalio kuću. Otad ne igram WoW. True story.

[Kid A]

Mythic je meni obnavljao sub za warhammer online 5 mjeseci bez da sam ja to trazio i skidao pare sa racuna i nikako nisam mogao to rijesiti preko email-a. Zvao sam support u Americi tjedan dana dok mi se napokon netko nije javio,na divnu srecu su prekinuli sub.
Kaj si stvarno morao zvati odavde u Ameriku?

[Babitz]

Prava šteta ako niste čuli za EA Spouse (http://ea-spouse.livejournal.com/).
I ne, nije fejk. Guglajte i gledajte na wiki oko toga.

[sickpetey]

Mythic je meni obnavljao sub za warhammer online 5 mjeseci bez da sam ja to trazio i skidao pare sa racuna i nikako nisam mogao to rijesiti preko email-a. Zvao sam support u Americi tjedan dana dok mi se napokon netko nije javio,na divnu srecu su prekinuli sub.
Kaj si stvarno morao zvati odavde u Ameriku?

Yup. Neke debilane moro sam im odgovoriti na ona secret pitanja koje postavis na samoj kreaciji accounta i kao odgovorili su mi da im je sigurnije ako cuju sve to iz mojih usta nego da im jednostavno prek maila odgovorim na te pizdarije. Naravno 500 kuna za subove koje su mi oni "slucajno" stavili nisu mogli vratiti jer je doslo do nekakve tehnicke pogreske kao.

Pokazo bi ticket ali prije nego što sam ih zvao pito sam zašto nemogu riješiti to sve prek maila il chatt help deska jer se sjećam da sam tako riješavo jedan problem sa Mass Effectom 2 prek toga sadržaj mog ticketa je posto sakriven

http://i.imgur.com/kj4Rq.jpg

[Babitz]

petarmarko, rofl.

[Xero]

Bome zvuči istinito posebno onaj dio u kojem šef vrijeđa radnika u kolicima.

[Markecgrad]

http://i.imgur.com/UGK8A.png

[Kid A]

http://i.imgur.com/2CQYW.gif

bem ti zivot

[Hexfire]

Naporni ste. Otvorite si temu u pljuvačnici pa tam kopirajte te vaše "informacije" jer ovak tema nema smisla.

[croat1gamer]

Kao da je T-Com support ista bolji.

[*Fila*]

Kao da je i jedan support igdje bolji..dođe mi frend pa me davi pitnajima oko kompa, naravno da ga odjebem. Da radim i taj posao bio bi još gori...kradu nas, mi im damo i to je to, ne razumim čemu sad kurčenje ko ima žešći chat log.

[Deadwalker]

Karabaš ima previše slobodnog vremena u životu :D

[Kid A]

a prokuzili ste me :)


vidite ja zapravo radim za Steam i ovo nas sve Gabe placa da postamo fejk screenshotove na forume s ciljem diskreditacije EA


al naravno sad to vise nemam smisla raditi kad se vec sve zna

[Arbiter of Change]

EA nastavlja se trajnim bananjem na forumu koji se odnose i na ban Origin accounta.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/12 ... e-edition/ (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/12/05/ea-origin-bans-update-edition/)

And within this is a more disturbing trend – those who are finding that their forum bans are, without explanation, becoming permanent bans. Permanent bans from accessing their Origin accounts, their Battlelog accounts, and therefore downloading purchased games, and playing online. Something which obviously raises serious questions about consumer rights, which is of course another angle we’re currently investigating.

[Kid A]

http://i.imgur.com/Zcoi0.png
Moras im se divit zbog ovakvih stvari

[Constantine]

75 eura :rotfl:

[McPingvin_v2.0]

Digital Deluxe toliko košta. Imaš hrpicu ingame itema :)

[Gothmog]

Rezervacija digitalne kopije...jebote...

[Kid A]

Ma nebitna sad cijena, vise me zanima po kojoj logici mozes naplacivat rezervaciju downloada. Nije vazno jel 1 euro ili 5, nemas nikakve osnove za takvo nesto
EDIT
Gothmog ninja'd

[Deadwalker]

Ne kužite vi. Sve je to samo kako bi vam EA mogao pružiti što kvalitetniju uslugu. 5€ je sitnica u usporedbi s divotama kakve vam svakodnevno pruža EA-ova služba za korisnike. Bit ce da takva talentirana ekipa koja radi tamo ima svoju cijenu na tržištu rada.

U prijevodu, da Karabaš može puniti s nečim ovu temu, to košta, jel

[Kid A]

U prijevodu, da Karabaš može puniti s nečim ovu temu, to košta, jel
Nesto sam pod utiskom kako ti se cini da postam ovo jer eto, nemam pametnija posla i kul je pljuvati po EA a dizati Valve u nebesa. Samo sto to nije slucaj.....iako znam da se mnogi sad premisljaju i spremni su progutat knedlu za nadolazeci Star Wars MMO i Mass Effect 3.
Drzim da je ovakav nacin poslovanja jako neprofesionalan, customer support im se ocigledno sastoji od amatera koji ce te ili savjetovati sa "please try again" ili dati Origin kupon sa 20% popusta (sto im je inace univerzalni odgovor na sve).
U sustini, samo mi je zao sto posteni kupci izvuku deblji kraj, kao npr onaj lik sto je dvaput moram platiti za BF3 limited edition.


(u sustini da sam ja pogresno protumacio tvoj post, onda nvm ignoriraj ovo)

[Deadwalker]

Krivo si protumačio :D

[Gothmog]

Evo nove jadikovke sa EA, i problemima koji su vrlo vjerovatno vezani sa Originom.

Naime, ukoliko ste vlasnik Hot Pursuita, ili Shift 2, i odlučili ste reinstalirati (ili instalirati po prvi puta) igru, nećete moći igrati online!

Dobijete oku ugodan error:
" The product key you entered has already been used the maximum number of times. Would you like to enter a different product key? "

EA je svjestan problema, i "čini" sve da se uskoro ukloni.

Šta oni meni rade...

[Arbiter of Change]

Yay!
http://help.ea.com/article/electronic-a ... ion-policy (http://help.ea.com/article/electronic-arts-account-suspension-policy)

Being banned multiplayer violations will no longer lock you out of your single-player games, and their DLC. Because, it seems, they’ve fixed their Offline mode. But there’s no word on whether forum violations can still affect gaming access.

[Arbiter of Change]

WHAT A TWEEST!
http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/06/06/ea-se ... %E2%80%9D/ (http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/06/06/ea-senior-vp-comments-on-steam-sales-%E2%80%9Ci-just-think-it-cheapens-your-intellectual-property-%E2%80%9D/)

DeMartini, when asked about replicating Steam’s strategy of giving deep digital discounts: “We won’t be doing that. Obviously they think it’s the right thing to do after a certain amount of time. I just think it cheapens your intellectual property. I know both sides of it, I understand it. If you want to sell a whole bunch of units, that is certainly a way to do that, to sell a whole bunch of stuff at a low price. The gamemakers work incredibly hard to make this intellectual property, and we’re not trying to be Target. We’re trying to be Nordstrom. When I say that, I mean good value – we’re trying to give you a fair price point, and occasionally there will be things that are on sale you could look for a discount, just don’t look for 75 percent off going-out-of-business sales.”

[hansi]

work incredibly hard
je
fair price
500 kuna za govno

[Neven <R>]

EA misli da su igre ko vino valjda, mogli bi im onda dizati cijenu s vremenom

[Maloki]

Ovo je dosta loš pokušaj dissa :)

[The Boz]

Lik govori kao da nema pojma o čemu priča. Nordstrom? Target? Wat?

[Neven <R>]

Ovo je dosta loš pokušaj dissa :)
ŽELIM REĆI DA STVARI GUBE VRIJEDNOST S VREMENOM

[Maloki]

Mislio sam na EA, ne na tebe.

[Deadwalker]

EA-ovi argumenti :pray: :pray:

Neka, takvom politikom Steam će lakše nastaviti rasti.

[Sgt. Bull]

Ovo je dosta loš pokušaj dissa :)
ŽELIM REĆI DA STVARI GUBE VRIJEDNOST S VREMENOM

NE GUBE AKO IH JE EA NAPRAVIO! ONE SU TI KA VINO, ŠTO STARIJE, TO BOLJE!

[Mirogamemasta]

Čujem da će EA otkupiti prava na Tetris... MP + DRM zagarantirani. :)

[Arbiter of Change]

Sniženja pojeftinjuju IP vrijednost? iQue sorpresa!
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06 ... -games-er/ (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/18/origin-offering-deep-discounts-on-many-games-er/)

That’s half the price of their current Origin prices, of course. Not half the price of their original prices. In fact, most of those games are now available for 87.5% of their original launch price. That’s an awful lot of intellectual property EA are cheapening today.

“Occasionally there will be things that are on sale you could look for a discount,” said DeMartini less than two weeks ago. “Just don’t look for 75 percent off going-out-of-business sales.”

Uh-oh!

[Deadwalker]

Ma seru govna, ko uvijek.
Ipak, pomalo mi je smiješan taj hejt već. U konačnici posao EA je donositi zaradu dioničarima, dok Valve nema te brige. Sasvim drugačije poslovne filozofije što se vidi iz aviona. Ipak, da malo ulože te silne milijune u CRM, ne bi im škodilo.

[Kid A]

http://store.origin.com/store/eaemea/se ... loorPrice/ (http://store.origin.com/store/eaemea/search/?keywords=FloorPrice/)

I 12 dana kasnije daju popuste na Originu do 87%

isuse boze kakvi bipolarci

[Xero]

Samo je bila loša berba nema razloga za paniku.

[Neven <R>]

http://store.origin.com/store/eaemea/search/?keywords=FloorPrice/

I 12 dana kasnije daju popuste na Originu do 87%

isuse boze kakvi bipolarci
:pray: :pray:

[The Boz]

Nisu li prije mjesec dana rekli nešto u stilu "SW:TOR is still going strong, our playerbase is actually expanding, blah blah blah"?

[Deadwalker]

Tko više njih doživljava ozbiljno...

[BigBongman]

Jel to BF:BC 2 za 5 ojra?

[Deadwalker]

Šteta novaca.

[Arbiter of Change]

Ovo postaje sve bolje i bolje.
EA preparing to become "100 percent digital company" (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/07/ea-preparing-to-become-100-percent-digital-company/)

The practice of distributing video games as physical objects had a good run. Really, it was a nice idea while it lasted. But the best option we had for getting games into our houses for a good long while is just not going to last.

[Deadwalker]

Ništa čudno, i ostali će EA-ovim stopama. Digitalna distribucija i mikro-transakcije su budućnost.

[Kistra]

Pomagajte jer ce me ovaj glupi Origin izluditi! :-x
Prvo je pocelo zajebavati tako sto kada krenem igrati Battlefield 3,pise kao da igram ali se ne desava nista,probam uci u drugi server ali ne da jer
vec kao igram! Odlucim ja reinstalirati Origin i Battlefield,ali mi sad nece da instalira Battlefield :twisted: i pise
da se moram logirati kao administrator da bi mogao pokrenuti instalaciju...
Problem je taj sto vec jesam kao administrator pokusao pokrenuti instalaciju ali ono i dalje nece,probao sam i razne gluposti sa EA-ovog foruma ali opet nece...
da li se neko susreo sa ovakvim problemom ili cu morati pricati sa glupom EA podrskom?

[Hexfire]

Nakon uninstalla Origina da li si maknuo i registry unose i ono što sprema u my documents (bar mislim da ima i tamo nešto)? To je meni pomoglo prije par mjeseci.

[Kid A]

Kad smo vec kod Origina juce sam ga instalirao i aktivirao hrpu igara sa Steama, pretrazivao sam njihov store i skoro svaka EA igra koju imam na Steamu se moze i na Originu redeemati preko steam cd-keya

[Deadwalker]

True.
Ja sam si aktivirao Mass Effect 2, Originse, Red Alert 3 i još neke naslove :)
Davaj nick da te dodam na frend listu.

[Kid A]

xarabasID (bar mislim da ga je tako Origin acceptao)

[Hexfire]

Još kad bi se moglo obrnuto :(.

[Kistra]

Nakon uninstalla Origina da li si maknuo i registry unose i ono što sprema u my documents (bar mislim da ima i tamo nešto)? To je meni pomoglo prije par mjeseci.
Nece probao sam... :-x

[Arbiter of Change]

Update 9.0, soon.
http://www.ea.com/news/whats-coming-in-origin-90

Origin 9.0 is nearly here! In the coming days, we’ll be rolling out a landmark update to millions of Origin users worldwide, beginning with players who have opted in to beta updates and going live for everyone else soon thereafter. Your suggestions and feedback over the past few months have driven many of the changes you’ll see in Origin 9.0. We’ve added a clock to Origin In-Game, increased your control over your My Games library, and made our menus more navigable.

[Deadwalker]

Origin stiže na Mac i Android.
Što se tiče igara, u ponudu stižu free-to-play naslovi te podrška za achievemente

Origin coming to Mac, adding achievements (http://www.shacknews.com/article/75269/origin-coming-to-mac-adding-achievements)


Origin already has 21 million users, according to Electronic Arts, and it is hoping to bring in more people with the announcement that EA's answer to Steam and other online stores will be expanding to Mac, Android and Facebook

[Lord Ragnarok]

http://www.hcl.hr/vijesti-kako-dobiti-b ... 74-17.html (http://www.hcl.hr/vijesti-kako-dobiti-besplatnu-igru-na-originu-7374-17.html)
klik

[ProzoЯ]

meni pise invalid promo code

Edit: cini se da su banaju acce koji su uzeli vise od 1 igre i blokirali su taj promo code :(

[croat1gamer]

Istekla akcija.

[Hexfire]

Izgleda da je prošla baba s kolačima, ali tko zna, možda bude još nešto od toga.

[hansi]

čapio Mirror's Edge

[StormCr0w]

Kaj Origin ne preuzima podatke s pisija i šalje ieju?

[Deadwalker]

I onda te špijunira američki NSA i CIA

[Hexfire]

I Jack Bauer dođe na vrata ak si bio zločest.

[StormCr0w]

Zato me i strah instalirat.

[hansi]

ja instalirao
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/005/342/129969639840.gif

[ProzoЯ]

http://i.imgur.com/CQFYg.jpg

:(

[hansi]

uncel es alwais welcum

[Tegla Ajvara]

ja sam imo problem sta nisam znao sta kupit :(
nakraju uzeo battlefield bad company 2 i nfs shift 2 na 2 razlicita acca
ostalo sve il mogu skinit sa neta, il mi se nesvidja il igro il prestaro :(

first world problem

[ProzoЯ]

jel bf1942 sad f2p?

[cham3leon]

Je, ali moraš ga skinut i igrat preko Oriđina.

[Arbiter of Change]

I ne možeš igrati sa drugim verzijama igre. Origin gonna Origin.

[cham3leon]

Ako netko slučajno nađe način da se igra free verzija BF 1942 mimo Oriđina, pls postajte.

[Hexfire]

Šalio sam se za Jack Bauera.

[Deadwalker]

:D

[Arbiter of Change]

Servis je izgleda haknut, promijenite passove ovo-ono.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012- ... g-hijacked (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-11-14-ea-origin-accounts-are-being-hijacked)

EA Origin accounts are being hijacked. Numerous people including Digital Foundry's Richard Leadbetter have been emailed by Origin with news that their account's password or email address or both have successfully been changed. Thing is, nobody asked or gave permission for them to be.

One GAF member took things a step further and discovered the .ru (Russian) email address now associated with his account. Searching for that email address in Origin turned up user Jekas77CsP's sparse and mostly private profile.

[Arbiter of Change]

Nova fora - Origin Free to Play. Šta je, Play4Free više nije edgy?
http://free.origin.com/

S “Why change to Origin Free To Play? The main reason is convenience for players – Origin now becomes your single destination for paid downloadable PC games and free-to-play games alike. Sign on to Origin to play the latest and greatest expansion pack in the Battlefield franchise, or jump into a Need for Speed World race. That’s the beauty of integrating on Origin – all your gaming content in one place, and the choice is yours what and where you want to play today.”

[Kid A]

Hmmmm, gdje sam to vec vidio?

[cham3leon]

"All your gaming content in one place."

I to na najžalosnijem mjestu na kojem gaming content može biti. Još uvijek žalim što Battlefield 1942 ne mogu igrat mimo Oriđina.

[StormCr0w]

Xfire

[Arbiter of Change]

EA i Ubisoft će uzajamno prodavati igre na svojim servisima.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/02 ... ers-games/ (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/02/19/lakes-boil-ubisoft-and-ea-to-sell-each-others-games/)

In what one can only assume is a concerted effort to try to put up a fight against Steam, it’s quite the sight to see rival publishers coming together like this. It’s a bit like in Roger Rabbit when there are Disney and Warner cartoons interacting. So on the offchance that the Origin servers are online, you’ll be able to buy Assassin’s Creed III and Far Cry 3 over there. While you’ll also be able to order SimCity Online (as EA have forgotten to call it) and Dead Space 3 on Uplay. Why? BECAUSE YOU JUST CAN!
http://i.imgur.com/IKeotZv.jpg

[Deadwalker]

Ok EA, no nije mi jasno zašto je Ubisoft krenuo sa svojim servisom. Onak, teško DRM smeće. Dovoljno je bilo iritantno unutar Steama, sad će to dići na sasvim noru razinu.

[Tegla Ajvara]

battlefield 3 ima neki popust :o

[crnisokol]

ima dosta sniženja na Amazonu (Dead Space, War of The Roses, Dark Souls itd.)

[Arbiter of Change]

Dobro su si složili prioritete.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolpinche ... ity-syste/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolpinchefsky/2013/02/27/ea-implements-single-identity-syste/)

According to Venture Beat, EA has employed 1500 engineers over eighteen month to create a single ID system, Single Identity, which will unify all their games across every platform: PC, Xbox, PS3, even iOS and Facebook.

However, it seems that EA’s Single Identity is more a way to track data about your games than a way to enrich the gaming experience. EA said their new system was a solution for “having your preferences, your achievements, your gameplay preferences, your payment preferences all recognized, regardless of what game you’re playing and what platform you choose to play on….

A thought occurs to me. This gives EA the ability to track their customers for the better…but what about for the worse? Last month, EA rewrote a controversial EULA that would have seen players banned for not reporting bugs. Would this tracking system make it easier to permaban players? And not just one platform, but all of them? Could a person who talks smack on an Xbox Live now find him/herself unable to play their favorite casual games on their iPhones?

[hansi]

kakve idiotarije, nemogu vjerovat kakvi kreteni majko draga, zelim im sve najgore i da im sutra propadne cijela kompanija

[cham3leon]

Danas baš čitam na steamgiftsu neki thread. Piše lik kako je ponovo instalirao neku igru na onom Ubisoftovom sranju i da je mu je iskočila poruka da mora aktivirat igru, tako da sad najednom ne prihvaća više stari key nego bi valjda morao nanovo kupovat igru.

Možda su takvi slučajevi u manjini pa je moj doživljaj tih oriđina i ostalih servisa nerealan, ali ne bih se nikad usudio preko toga kupovat.

[Hexfire]

Ubisoftov servis je malo zajeban jer na drugi način čuva igre koje su baš Ubijeve, a na drugi one trećih strana. Zato mi je steam super, iako i on nije savršen. I dan danas ne mogu igrati GTA IV koji sam uredno platio, a steam support zaboli ona stvar za moj problem.

[Arbiter of Change]

Samozavaranje se nastavlja. :)
http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/27/eas-fut ... ansaction/ (http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/27/eas-future-games-will-all-feature-micro-transaction/)

Said Jorgensen, “We are building into all of our games the ability to pay for things along the way; to get to a higher level. And consumers are enjoying and embracing that way of business.”

[cham3leon]

Ubisoftov servis je malo zajeban jer na drugi način čuva igre koje su baš Ubijeve, a na drugi one trećih strana. Zato mi je steam super, iako i on nije savršen. I dan danas ne mogu igrati GTA IV koji sam uredno platio, a steam support zaboli ona stvar za moj problem.

Kako se pa to dogodilo?


Samozavaranje se nastavlja. :)
http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/27/eas-fut ... ansaction/ (http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/27/eas-future-games-will-all-feature-micro-transaction/)

Said Jorgensen, “We are building into all of our games the ability to pay for things along the way; to get to a higher level. And consumers are enjoying and embracing that way of business.”

Gentlemen, reload your pistols... Aim at your right foot...

[Hexfire]

Ubisoftov servis je malo zajeban jer na drugi način čuva igre koje su baš Ubijeve, a na drugi one trećih strana. Zato mi je steam super, iako i on nije savršen. I dan danas ne mogu igrati GTA IV koji sam uredno platio, a steam support zaboli ona stvar za moj problem.

Kako se pa to dogodilo?


Problem je sa Liberty city ekspanzijom. Jednostavno se ne pokreće. Niti ima error ni ništa. Support mi nije odgovorio, na steam forumu ima par topica sa sličnim problemima, ali nema rješenja. Možda se opet za koji mjesec pozabavim s tim, ali trenutno ne mogu igrat nešto što sam uredno platio.

[Kid A]

Otvori topic na SG, velike su sanse da je netko imao slican problem i da zna rjesenje

[Deadwalker]

Samozavaranje se nastavlja. :)
http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/27/eas-fut ... ansaction/ (http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/27/eas-future-games-will-all-feature-micro-transaction/)

Said Jorgensen, “We are building into all of our games the ability to pay for things along the way; to get to a higher level. And consumers are enjoying and embracing that way of business.”

Mikrotransakcije u kupljenim igrama. Čini se da je metoda dobro zaživjela u Dead Spaceu 3.
Ilustrirajmo to na primjeru Battlefielda 4 - dakle platiš igru 50€, season pass 50€, pojedine puške ili oklope još 50€. Ljudi su zbilja ovce.

[Arbiter of Change]

Je li ja to možda čujem backpedaling? Koji šok.
http://www.shacknews.com/article/78093/ ... s-comments (http://www.shacknews.com/article/78093/ea-clarifies-microtransactions-comments)

"I made a statement in the conference along the lines of 'We'll have micro-transactions in our games' and the community read that to mean all our games, and that's really not true," he said. He did note that all of its mobile games going forward will have microtransactions, "because almost all of them are going to a world where they are play for free." He called mobile the "real core" of its microtransaction strategy.

[Kid A]

http://www.gametrailers.com/side-missio ... ing-issues (http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mission/55519/darkspore-delisted-from-steam-plagued-with-game-breaking-issues)

[Arbiter of Change]

Sad znači imaš mrtvu igru ako si ju kupio. Pirates win again.

[Deadwalker]

Origin one-ups Steam, offers refunds on all EA games (http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/19/4638752/origin-one-ups-steam-offers-refunds-on-all-ea-games)


...As long as the game is published by EA itself, and as long as you ask for a refund within 24 hours of the first time you launch the game or within 7 days of purchase, the money should come back to you. "If something doesn't work out — you aren't riveted by the storyline, or sucked in by the action, or even just if the game doesn't play well with your video card — we've got your back," writes EA in a blog post. The refund program is rolling out worldwide over the next few weeks.

Interesting.

[ProzoЯ]

odkad su otjerali onog talijanskog zidova popravljaju se EA, smoa sto su im jos uvijek cijene na originu prevelike