Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines i Redemption

[The Boz]

Nisam najbolje upoznat sa trenutnim loreom ove verzije, ali u Masqueradeu je LA bio hotspot jer je bivši Anarch Free State, i za njega se istovremeno bori Camarilla, Sabbat, Quei Jin, i još k tome ima dosta divljine okolo u kojima se kote vukodlaci. Bio je više manje jedinstven melting pot svega što postoji u World of Darkness svijetu...

[Bartuc]

Ma ja bi da se vrate u srednji vijek. Vampiri i vatreno oružje mi se ne sviđa. Redemption mi je draža igra samo zbog srednjeg vijeka.

[The Boz]

Ma kakvi. Jedno od najjačih fora WoDa je da se sve to događa tu, danas, u mraku.

[baldrick_]

slažem se, srednji vek je ono gotika, mrak, zlo.. horor, a ovakvo sadašnje doba je jednostavno stripski cool.

teško će biti naći novo mjesto radnje,L.A. je bio savršen za tu tematiku
ne znam, meni se ne sviđa što ko da se ceo grad sastoji od 5-6 ulica kojima neprestano hode isti ljudi.. razbija imerziju.

[Konšiljer]

ne znam, meni se ne sviđa što ko da se ceo grad sastoji od 5-6 ulica kojima neprestano hode isti ljudi.. razbija imerziju.

da,ali zamisli što bi se postiglo s današnjom tehnologijom,skupa s World of Darkness-om nastalo bi remek djelo

[baldrick_]

ne verujem da je tehnologija dostigla taj nivo, ali ako jeste do jaja

[nosferatu25]

Jel bi mogao neko ovde da mi objasni kako da igram RPG World of Darkness (ono, sa knjigom, pen & paper)? Šta mi sve treba i kako se to uopšte igra? Hvala puno.

[The Boz]

Treba ti par ljudi, par sati vremena, par char sheetova, olovke i par kockica.

[Feanor]

Neznam koliko je dobar ovaj link nisam nikad igrao, ali ono ček it aut:

http://www.white-wolf.com/worldofdarkne ... line=intro (http://www.white-wolf.com/worldofdarkness/index.php?line=intro)

[Arbiter of Change]

Reklamirajte malo podforum. :eyebrows:

[nosferatu25]

Treba ti par ljudi, par sati vremena, par char sheetova, olovke i par kockica.
znam ali koji je postupak, proces igre, kako se tačno igra? kao što u monopolu prvo delimo pare pa bacamo kockicu pa pomeramo figuru pa kupujemo zemljišta, šta radimo ovde? :|

[senad_986]

Kontam poceti igrati Bloodlines, pa razmisljam koja je klasa najbolja za prvi prelazak i vjerovatno i zadnji.
Preporuke?

[Windwalker]

Koja ti najbolje izgleda.
Sve su jednako jake, ovisno kako si puniš melee/firearms/intimidate/hacking i ostale skillove.

[Mirogamemasta]

Nema prvi i zadnji. Moras preci minimalno 3 puta. :D
A za klan nema preporuke posto su sve jednako dobre kao sto je i Windwalker rekao.
(Meni osobno se vise svida Malkavian klan zbog bolesnih dijaloga koje mozes voditi sa NPC-jem.)

[Teon]

Al niposto nemoj igrat Malkaviana prvi put, jer ce ti spoilat igru!

Preporucam za prvi put: Gangrel
Pa onda Malkavian (njega obavezno odigraj, al nikako prvi put)

[Mirogamemasta]

Ja sam igrao Malkaviana prvi put.
Kako to mislis spoilati igru? Objasni.

[Teon]

Npr. onaj quest sa sestrama. On odma otkrije tajnu koja je meni bila odlican twist dok igras prvi put.

[Mirogamemasta]

Ah... da. Imas pravo.
Inace. Ja sam prvi put igrao oko 1 sat po noci pa sam igrao bez zvuka. (Ne znam zasto ali mi se nije dalo stavljati slusalice na glavu.)
I cijelo vrijeme sam mislio da je jedna od njih u drugoj sobi ili nesto. Pa da se jedna iza zatvorenih vrata svada sa ovom drugom.
Tek kad sam drugi put prelazio (sa zvukom jel :D ) sam skuzio koliko je citav taj dio dobro zamisljen i odraden. :pray:

[senad_986]

Taman sam mislio igrati s Malkavianom jer je cudan i ima najbolje dijaloge, ali ako ce mi spoilati pricu, onda ne.
Inace u RPG-ovima probleme rjesavam kroz dijaloge, a borbom ako nema alternative. Koja klasa je najbliza ovome?
I da li da razvijam melee ili vatrena oruzja. Vise bih da se mlatim, ali mi se cini da je melee borba nekako mlaka?

[Windwalker]

Mislim da su Ventruei nekako pričljivi.
Ali možeš ti pričanjem s bilo kim rješavati ako razvijaš charm/intimidate.

A koristit ćeš i melee i firearms, bez brige.
Probaj ih razvijati podjednako.

I neboj se, igra nije teška, tako da nemožeš nešto baš zabrljati ako razviješ neki 'krivi' skill.

Samo igraj i uživaj.

[The Boz]

Talk-only Ventrue je jedini lik koji će u jednom dijelu igre vjerojatno deinstalirati od frustracija. Go go gadget Nosferatu Warrens 1 2 3!

[baldrick_]

meni je u ovoj igri ubedljivo najbitnija stvar bio roleplay.. tako da je moj savet: izaberi klan čiji opis tebi najviše liči, ili barem liku koga igraš.. ako oćeš da budeš gay uzmi toreadora, kreten ventrue, sirovina brujah itd.


I da li da razvijam melee ili vatrena oruzja. Vise bih da se mlatim, ali mi se cini da je melee borba nekako mlaka?
i borba vatrenim oružjem je mlaka


Ali možeš ti pričanjem s bilo kim rješavati ako razvijaš charm/intimidate.

persuasion najkorisniji

[Jašar]

Da contributam.. :) Ovo sam skontao tek nakon nekoliko runova a i rijetko se vidi u guidovima. Ovaj guide je dobro sakriven budući da ćete na to mjesto ući sa relativno niskim statsima i teško ćete ga primjetiti. Radi se o prvom stanu do vašeg.

http://i34.tinypic.com/11l0cjb.jpg

[keko]

Stavi to u spoiler da ne spoilaš nekome igru.

[Jašar]

Stavi to u spoiler da ne spoilaš nekome igru.
Kasno sam se sjetio :rambo:

[senad_986]

U dilemi sam pravoj!
Probao sam malo sa Malkavianom, Tremereom i Ventruom i ubjedljivo mi je najbolji Malkavian.
I na ona pitanja sam odgovorio i dao mi je Malkaviana.
Ima li mnogo tih situacija u kojima spoila radnju i spoila li glavne questove?

[Arbiter of Change]

Ma igraj, ionako nećeš shvatiti foreshadowing. Ovi pretjeruju. :)

[Windwalker]

E, koliko tu ispituješ već si mogao igru dvaput završiti.

Igraj i uživaj. Čak i ako ti prvi put nešto promakne, nema veze.
Ovo je igra koja se igra barem jednom svake 2 godine.

[senad_986]

Hvala na savjetima i izvinjavam se sto sam malo dosadan bio. ;)

[Kostolomac]

Baš malo gledam, unofficial patch v7 je izišao za Bloodlines. Isto tako i Camarilla Edition v1.4, sa uključenim tim patchom.
Mislim da je vrijeme za treći pokušaj 8)

[Jašar]

Baš malo gledam, unofficial patch v7 je izišao za Bloodlines. Isto tako i Camarilla Edition v1.4, sa uključenim tim patchom.
Mislim da je vrijeme za treći pokušaj 8)
jel to nešto novo?
edit. - ne sjećam se koja je bila zadnja verzija unofficiala.

[Bartuc]

Ja sam na HDD-u imao v6.9, tako da je ovo definitivno novo :P

[Arbiter of Change]

Konačno je izašao The Final NightsSmod za Bloodlines i to 875MB težak.

What is VTM: The Final Nights? (http://camarillaedition.darkbb.com/t323-what-is-vtm-the-final-nights)
The Final Nights Download Center (http://camarillaedition.darkbb.com/t851-the-final-nights-download-center)

With 7 completely brand new clans, 5 new disciplines, extra quests, new NPCs, new game mechanics and new music, the features seem endless. All of this is being built upon the Camarilla Edition series incorporating such things as the blood timer system, pedestrian blood dolls, and the new combat system. Combined we feel the name Bloodlines must be removed from this game, and thus we now simply have "The Final Nights".

[Outmind]

Arbiteru, dabog da ti se miš sira prejeo

Sad OPET zbog tog tvog moda instaliravam bloodlines. Moram probat sa set-ovcem i sa još par njih, a nisam nikad ni sa malkom prešao...

[whiskey]

Morat cu i ja :)

[Kenyi]

I ja definitivno :(

[str1k3r]

E, jučer sam prešao. Opet.

Must... not... succumb...

[whiskey]

Dakle na izboru više nisu stari klanovi nego samo novi. Mislim se između assamitesa (muslimanski vampiri) ili samedija (nosferatulike zombiji sa novom disciplinom thanatosis). Zanimljivo zaista :)

[Kenyi]

Jel u mod ukljucen i unofficial patch ili ga moram skidati ?

[Windwalker]

Jao, sad ću morati i to opet igrat.
A toliko obaveza...

[whiskey]

Jel u mod ukljucen i unofficial patch ili ga moram skidati ?

Pojma nemam ali cini se da sve radi normalno kad instaliraš mod.

[Duke of Earl]

Jel u mod ukljucen i unofficial patch ili ga moram skidati ?
Netreba ti to, mod se instalirava na čistu 1.0 verziju Bloodlinesa, a sadrži službeni patch i bug fixeve od ljudi koji su radili mod.

[Kenyi]

Kk. Da ne moram skidati ogromni unofficial patch i mod, mrsko mi.

[Duke of Earl]

Instaliram igru i mod, napravim lika, igra se učita, i naravno, CTD i porukica "engine error: no precache models/character/...".


I sudeći po googleu, jedini sam čovjek na svijetu s tim problemom.

How unexpected.

[whiskey]

Zaboravija sam kakva je zaraza ova igra. Kad kreneš u quest nema stajanja dok ga ne završiš :)

[Kenyi]

Gdje je download link na stranici za mod ?
Edit, našao.

[whiskey]

Naiša sam na jedan od gorih bugova u povijesti bugova, bloodlines reputacija se i dalje nastavlja. Naime ako broj exp pointova priđe 9 pointovi se resetiraju!! To je zajeb jer za iduci level discipline mi triba 12 exp poena. Ništa, probat nac sejvove i sve nanovo instalirat pa ako se posreci..

[Kenyi]

You have sent the thin blood into a suicide mission to kill the president. Are you happy now ?
Enivejz, jebemu, baš su me noviji erpiđijevi razmazili sa svim pojednostavljenim stvarima. Baš moram da biram rijeci jer svaki reply ima neku težinu. Jebeno se moram uživiti kako ne bih donio loše odluke po mene.
Enivejz igram sa ovim novim modom, The Final Nights i super je. Nove klase i novi skillovi. Uz to unaprijeđen gameplay i poboljšan balans. Novi NPC-evi (koje još nisam sreo) itd.
Zasad super.

[whiskey]

Priša igru 5. put na strani anarcha. Ovaj put je bilo jako lagano jer clan Baali ima naj OP disciplinu. Doslovna besmrtnost i fireball koji bossove ubije u 4-5 udarca. Bilo mi je veci gušt igrat ovo 5. put nego prilazit witcher 2 po prvi put. To mnogo govori o današnjim igrama. Isprobajte mod ako niste, zakon je :)

[Kenyi]

Jep, i ne zaboravi onaj +1 xp gain, dosta sam skillova izmaksao.
Samo me nerviralo što sam sve skill bookove morao kupiti kod Akeema, sve u svemu mod je super.

[whiskey]

Lik mi je na kraju bija jack of all trades. Kla sam ih puškama, macevima, disciplinama. Persuation i hack isto jaki tako da sam rješija uglavnom sve questove. Gušt ipo od igre.
Da bi bubreg da naprave još koji masquerade nastavak.

[Outmind]

Jep, i ne zaboravi onaj +1 xp gain,Sdosta sam skillova izmaksao.
Samo me nerviralo što sam sve skill bookove morao kupiti kod Akeema, sve u svemu mod je super.


Wha?

Gdje da to nabavim, baš bi mi dobro došlo.

Sad sam na vili onog malka btw...

[Kenyi]

Taj item se inace dobiju dole u kripti Giovannia, ali kod ove rase Baali, je ona pod racial traits. Brutalna stvarcica.

[Outmind]

A tako... daleko sam ja od giovanni-a.

[Kenyi]

No, kažem, ako si skinuo ovaj mod, The Final Nights, tu dobiješ nove rase i spellove. Ta nova rasa Baali je jebeno OP :D

[Outmind]

Pa igram tfn, ak pogledaš jedno 2-3 strane iza, vidjet ćeš da me je arbiterov post o tome ponukao da počnem igrat sa setovkom.

[Kenyi]

Eh, mislim onda da neces dobiti tu grancicu za +1 exp, ali eto, možda se prodaje u Chinatownu kod onog frajera što ti da kvest da ukradeš oci iz hladnjace.
Baali je baš op, ne znam zašto bi druge uzimao :D

[W3DR4N]

Izašao je novi patch 7.6b

http://www.patches-scrolls.de/vampire_bloodlines.php#76

[Arbiter of Change]

Igra je na 75% popusta preko Steama kroz ovaj vikend.
http://store.steampowered.com/news/5951/

[Babitz]

Osobno preporučam da to ne kupujete jer Troika više ne postoji čime sve pare idu Activisionu.

[Windwalker]

A što s onima koji bi htjeli igru?
Kaj, da je ukradu?

[Babitz]

Dat novac Activisionu je veći kriminal.

[Arbiter of Change]

A sad. Ne bi u to. :)

[Kid A]

Izašao je novi patch 7.6b

http://www.patches-scrolls.de/vampire_bloodlines.php#76
Jel se ovaj patch moze bez problema integrirati u Steam verziju igre?

EDIT


i jel se taj patch inace preporucuje?

[Arbiter of Change]

Da i da. Vjerojatno ćeš samo morati uputiti instalaciju prema direktoriju u Steam folderu.

[Kid A]

Hoce se tokom instalacije patcha taj folder sam napraviti ili ga ja moram napraviti u Steam folderu (i koja lokacija tocno)?. Sorry ako sam bio nejasan

[Arbiter of Change]

Ma ne, prema igrinom folderu koji ti se napravi u Steam folderu kad instaliraš, tj. downloadaš igru preko njega. Patch ti ne stvara nikakav dodatni.
Nadam se samo da znaš gdje je što u Steam folderu.

[Kid A]

E imam opet par pitanja:

Instalirao sam neoficijelni patch u C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\vampire the masquerade - bloodlines ali mi na main meniju ne pokazuje nista poput v1.12 ili tako nesto (sto inace bude slucaj kad patchujes neku igru) pa se pitam jesam li dobro sve uradio

Druga stvar; ovo sam nasao na jednom forumu:

As there has been some confusion on how to apply this patch to your Steam-bought copy of Bloodlines here is a short how-to:

1) Run Steam as Administrator.
2) Start the unpatched game once, so it will fetch any additional Steam-files and initialize itself.
3) Quit the game.
4) Now disable "Steam Community In Game" and "Automatic Update" inside Steam (for this game).
5) Install our patch to
\steamapps\common\vampire the masquerade - bloodlines
on your computer.
6) Leave both "Steam Community In Game" & "Automatic Update" for Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines disabled, there won't be any new updates anyway.


Jel se ovo inace bas mora uraditi?

[str1k3r]

Pa, da. Jer će Steam automatski vraćati na zadnji službeni update. Budući da odavno ne izlaze službeni updateovi (otkad Troika ne postoji), ostavi to izgašeno. :)

[Kid A]

Aaaaaaa tako znaci. A ja se jos cudim sto mi igra povremeno trza lol

Jel mogu sad to odmah disejblati ili prvo moram ponoviti korake iz 2,3,4?

[str1k3r]

Ako ti je već updateano na zadnji službeni, možeš slobodno isključiti. :)

[Kid A]

Error: Steam cries at me for patching this!!

Step 1: In your Games list, right-click on VTM: Bloodlines then left click Properties. Un-check "Enable Steam in-game community" so it becomes disabled. Click on Updates tab. Change box to "Do not automatically update this game." Apply the changes.

Step 2: I'd guess you want to do this BEFORE you install any unofficial patch or any other mod, so Steam doesn't revert things back to Patch 1.2 on you.S
- Credit TheMysterD

Znaci deletanje igre pa opet download. E jebemu.


Al valjda ce ovaj put biti ok

[Kid A]

Jebem ti ovaj poluproizvod od igre, pun kurac bagova a nisam ni sat vremena igrao (vec peti put gledam prvu cutscenu).
Zvuk i video su mi obavezno out of sync i cutscene mi trzaju stalno. I kad god izadjem iz igre stalno mi steam vraca ovu opciju nazad
http://i.imgur.com/h1R7v.jpg
Pedeseti put ovu igru instaliram i patchujem i nikako pocet igrati

[Grim]

Ja nisam naišao na nikakve poteškoće. Skinuo, stavio unofficial patch, stavio widescreen patch i počeo igrati. Tough luck. :)

[Chupacabra]

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[Da_killah]

konačno dobio ovu igru i krećem igrati čim mi prođe ispit. mislio sam za prvi put krenuti s brujahom ili gangrelom. skinuo sam unofficial patch 7.8. neki savjeti i tako to?

[Bartuc]

A lol, odmah sa 2 najdosadnije klase :D Najbolji klanovi su ti...

1) Ventrue - imaš Dominate disciplinu u dijalozima, tak da igra poprimi novu dimenziju
2) Malkavian - imaš Dementation disciplinu u dijalozima, a i toliko su spaljeni da nemoj igrati prvi prelazak s njima xD
3) Tremere - samo zbog blood magic
4) Nosferatu - nudi drugačiji gameplay


Ostali klanovi su više manje generički, bez ikakvih posebnosti. Ventrue je po meni najzanimljiviji pošto samo on i Malkavian nude dodatne dijalog opcije, a Malkavijana je teško pratiti. Brujah i Gangrel su čisto razbijačke "warrior" klase, a Toreadori su mi gay.

[Da_killah]

a da, mislio sam s gangrelom jer su mi oni onako defaultni, a za neki kasniji prelazak ostavit ove "zanimljivije" klanove, al vidjet ćemo

[Bartuc]

Igra ti uopce nije teska, tak da mozes rasturati s bilo kojim klanom. Jos jedan savjet je da igras sa melee oruzjem posto je vatreno lose napravljeno.

[Arbiter of Change]

Nije vatreno oružje loše napravljeno, nego si toliko loš u rukovanju dok ne nabildaš Firearms skill da se ne isplati osim ako STVARNO nisi uporan.
Zbog karme, vatrena oružja su najbolja za zadnju etapu igre.

[The Boz]

Huh? Kakva loša vatrena oružja, kakva karma?
Ako si nespretan s gunom, nespretan si s gunom. Postani spretan.

[Bartuc]

Ne nego napucavanje uopće nije gušt u ovoj igri, ne mislim na DPS ili slično, već je jednostavno loše!? Barem je meni veći gušt klati katanom ili sjekirom.

[sickpetey]

Mislim da je vrijeme da ovo vise probam.

[Windwalker]

Nemaš kaj probati. To se mora cijelo odigrati. Barem sedam puta.

[The Boz]

Ja sam prestao brojati oko desetog puta.

[sickpetey]

SO igra je odlucila da sam Malkavian il kak je Boz reko


i igra je zaključila da si šizofrenični psihopat sa višestrukom ličnosti i maničnim epizodama?

[The Boz]

Daj, ljudi, pomozite Sicku. Jadan je skoro zaigrao igru bez neslužbenog patcha.
Nemrem se sjetit koji od tri aktualna patcha (camarilla, final nights, wesp) radi što, tak da mu nemrem sam reć.

[Arbiter of Change]

Treba samo najnoviji unofficial patch. (zadnji je 7.8 ).
http://www.patches-scrolls.de/vampire_bloodlines.php

Ako ima Steam verziju onda treba ugasiti automatski updejt igre preko Steama.

[Da_killah]

pih, meni je ispalo da sam nosferatu, s njima mi se ne da igrat ;)

[Bartuc]

S njima može biti malo naporno, tak da ostavi za cca 3. ili 4. prelazak. Malkavian, Ventrue i Tremere su obavezni :D

[The Boz]

Prvi prelazak: Bilokaj osim Malkavian i Nosferatu
Drugi prelazak: Malkavian ili Nosferatu
Treći prelazak: Nosferatu ili Malkavian
Četvrti prelazak: Ako već nisi, Tremere
Peti prelazak+: Sve ostalo kaj nisi

[Chupacabra]

9. prelazak: Ajmo malo pregledati modove

[Bartuc]

Tko će prvi? xD

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs44/f/2009/146/2/1/VampireBloodlines_Motivational_by_meMilly.jpg

[The Boz]

Prvo bih ga morao uninstalirat...

[sickpetey]

Mkay

odem i pretucem one junkie u kuci na plazi. Odem se zajebavati na kompu kad ono neki cutscene i sve mi se zacrni? Jel to normalno il mi jednostavno ne rade cut scenovi i ak ne radejel netko zna nacin da se popravi to?

EDIT: its k izgleda neki bug bio.

[Arbiter of Change]

Tko će prvi? xD

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs44/f/2009/146/2/1/VampireBloodlines_Motivational_by_meMilly.jpg
Ova je pravi. :)

http://i.imgur.com/xoQjT.jpg

[Xero]

Bloodlines ima najbolje pičke u industriji.

[Bartuc]

@AoC, taj mi je bio u odvratnom photobucketu pa ga nisam linkao :D Kako mrzim taj photobucket, pa nikako pogledati sliku njemu :shock:

[Babitz]

Kaj ne bi bilo bolje da je "will" capsano i boldano umjesto "someone"?

[sickpetey]

Ohkay.

Sa Tremer sam ubio blood guardiana bez problema al sa Malkavianom ga uspijem samo do pola helta sa onim macem skinut. Sad gledam bezveze po netu i primjetio sam da lik radi aggravated dmg i mnogo manje dmg-a dok meni siluje cetvrtinu svakim udarcem i ne radi aggravated :P


EDIT: sredio sam

[sickpetey]

Eto prošo i igra mi se dosta svidjela...mislim da cu napraviti jos jedan prelazak heh

Ubio i kineze i francuza i oso. Dobro sto nisam iskoristio taj kljuc otiso bi u tri pi...

[Arbiter of Change]

Camarilla Edition 1.5Sje vani. Ako odlučite staviti ovaj mod ne treba vam ništa pored toga (unofficial patch, itd).
http://camarillaedition.darkbb.com/t29- ... la-edition (http://camarillaedition.darkbb.com/t29-what-is-vtmb-camarilla-edition)
http://www.patches-scrolls.de/vampire_b ... amarilla15 (http://www.patches-scrolls.de/vampire_bloodlines.php#camarilla15)

* game options:
-removed preset camera views, now available as keyboard options

*general changes:
-Character Creation Screen shows CE 1.5
-updated to UP 7.7 plus (including new music; but not including the original text files and the python update from the "extras" folder -they are mostly intended for modders, who should download and start from Wesps patch anyway)
-minor issues like typos
-added some more clan specific replies to the dialogs
-the Bertram/Nos Haven Quest runs without problems now
-updated discipline descriptions in the character screen
-removed Jack from the SM haven and changed it back from Elysium to save area after the bloodhunt

*bloodtimer:
-you can "overfeed" now: you can feed for up to a bloodpool of 16. 16th bloodpoint is lost within 5 seconds. This makes sure you don't go down to 14 just after feeding. The "black hole" in the counter at bloodpool 16 is removed.
-you can loose more than 1 bloodpoint when the timer fires. This was necessary to include stamina in the bloodloss calculations for the college study times.
-if you are so hungry that you would be at ploodpool -1 or less, you WILL frenzy every 30 seconds, no chance of avoiding it, except feeding

*email college
-45 courses plus the bonus one for the Bertram/Nos haven quest (that equals 6 xp more than you would get for maxing out all books; advantage: you can spend them when and where you want, disadvantage: it costs more money)
-slightly changed research requirements
-study time now directly influences the bloodtimer, so stamina also counts for bloodloss
-no more risk of losing a course due to low blood, but increased frenzy risk (see above)
-books removed

*tutorial:
-changes for "cheating dialog": now if you agree to retire a cheated character, he will get an immediate "haircut" by the sheriff, if you don't retire, you will start the game with a masquerade violation.
-further small dialog changes
-rat feeding completely skipped for Ventrue
-everybody gets two opponents in one of the rooms, Presence and Thaumaturgy 2 users in 2nd room, others in 3rd room
-adapted to disciplines: no need to hide in third room, changed discipline order for Brujah, Dementation and Dominate always level 1, rat in 3rd room, so Animal Succulence isn't completely useless

*Hubs:
-items to be found changed, random items also on SM pier
-custom music on hubs
-prostitute dialogs changed: random seduction chance for free feeding, dominate and dementation options, more haggling, (additional models, including the new TFN skins, thanks, Zer0)

*clubs:
-new music system for Asylum, Confession, and Asp Hole (rotating on entry + DJs). Ask the djs to play a specific song, or just another one.
-additional custom music, but without DJ for: Empire dance floor, Last Round, Vesuvius, Diner, Santa Monica beach (thinblood radio), Glaze
-new blooddolls in Asylum, Confession, Empire Hotel, Asp Hole: Dolls cannot be permanently seduced. Chance of success, number of dolls, and skins randomly determined. Up to 3 dolls per location, they only talk once per visit
-Venus sins working properly now; missing sound fixed, some more sins, conditions implemented, you can confess everything only once, except for getout.
-Venus now can be seduced and used as a blooddoll; random success every time you try; one attempt per visit, and only if you are a silent partner
-money you get from Venus partly depends on your haggling skill
-customers in Confession don't teleport randomly anymore
-customers in clubs have random models now, most "twins" removed (work in progress)

**Santa Monica
*Bailbonds: Arthur will pay according to haggle skill for Carson, but not (yet) for info on Milton
*Beachhouse: put Mercurio's money in cigar box, so the game recognizes pickup
*Pier: Copper will have the money after you return from watching the murder site

**Downtown
*Hallowbrook hotel:
-if you're not Tremere, gender of the firemage is determined randomly

**Hollywood
*Ash sewer:
-you can tell Ash to stay behind while you go for the hunters, or to follow you
-Ash now is armed with a .38, so he might be of help instead of a pure nuisance
-but he is also vulnerable now, so he can die and cause quest failure

-------------Known Problems:
-Music volumes, and transitions on map changes, for custom music still need work
-it seems, the option to successfully end the copper quest without selling the stake from the plus patch doesn't work;
-Still no new manual or full readme file
-some dialogs (prostitute, djs) produce unnecessary <more> lines

-------------Plans for the future:
-more haggling options in the dialogs, though not as excessive as in TFN
-adapt "Akeem hunter quest", and parts of the TFN hunter system to CE
-change email college to "Akeem&#39;s evening classes" That will give Akeem a purpose now that the books are removed, and makes haggle available for the costs.
-some more places with random items and random npc models
-keep up with Wesps plus patch (not every version of course)
-make tutorial playable as a regular level (very low priority)

[sickpetey]

Vec skidam :D.

[sickpetey]

Arby stavio ja taj patch i nemrem koristiti magije/talente jer se ne pojavljuje onaj znak iznad glave NPCa. Ima li itko slican problem?

[hacker]

Kako funkcionira ovaj malkavianov insight? Pročitao sam negdje da bih recimo trebao saznati tajnu od Jeanette i Therese prije zadnjeg questa sa njima, ali nisam ništa niti čuo niti vidio...

[sickpetey]

Neznam za njih al je meni insight odma reko da me onaj ghoul od Nosferatu-a jebe u mozak :D

[Arbiter of Change]

Kako funkcionira ovaj malkavianov insight? Pročitao sam negdje da bih recimo trebao saznati tajnu od Jeanette i Therese prije zadnjeg questa sa njima, ali nisam ništa niti čuo niti vidio...
Funkcionira tako da čitaš što biraš jer tamo sve piše, premda nije uvijek razumljivo.

[sickpetey]

Meni je Gangrel najzabavniji :D uzo žensku, humanity na najmanje i zabava garantirana. Scene u Holywoodu su mi bile zakon. I sve mogu golim rukama ubiti ne trebaju mi ni pandje no oruzja.

A i ono unistavanja gargoyla golim rukama :D

[Arbiter of Change]

Pfff. :)
Borio si se s njim? Ja mu postao najbolji drugar zbog Persuasiona.

Inače, jučerašnji Steam client update.

- Fixed downloading issue with "Vampire: The Masquerade"

[sickpetey]

Moj karakter je kuja...vrlo vrlo vrlo VELIKa kuja.
Jedva sam se sudrzao da ne pokoljem svakog pandura na brodu :P

Persuasion je prelagan izbor posto je potreban persuasion 7 il tak negdje koji sam vec imao u holivodu tijekom prvog prelaska sa onim prakticionarima blood magije.

[hacker]

Ja sam odmah na početku imao persuasion 6 xD. Skonto sam da je isplativije stavit sve pointe na početku u jedan skill...

[Duke of Earl]

Igra s najgorim engineom u povijesti gaminga. Jučer me ulovila želja da zaigram opet, napravim clean install, instaliram Camarilla 1.5, izađem na ulice Santa Monice i dobivam gotovo konstantnih 15-20 fpsa bez obzira na detalje, rezoluciju ili prčkanje po cfgu. Nikad mi se prije nije to dešavalo, ali sad sam definitivno zauvijek odustao od ove igre. Jebem ti Troiku.

[Herr Schnitzel]

Igra koristi Source :)

[Duke of Earl]

Znam, Source inače jest odličan engine, ali je dobro poznato da se ovdje koristila rana verzija, i da je igra bila požurivana i prekratko testirana, što je i dovelo do nekih desetak fan made patcheva koji još uvijek nisu uspjeli popraviti sve probleme. Mislim da to govori dovoljno.

[Kenyi]

Ma stavi onaj unofficial patch 5.8 i sve riješeno.

[Kid A]

Igra s najgorim engineom u povijesti gaminga. Jučer me ulovila želja da zaigram opet, napravim clean install, instaliram Camarilla 1.5, izađem na ulice Santa Monice i dobivam gotovo konstantnih 15-20 fpsa bez obzira na detalje, rezoluciju ili prčkanje po cfgu. Nikad mi se prije nije to dešavalo, ali sad sam definitivno zauvijek odustao od ove igre. Jebem ti Troiku.
Ista stvar se i meni desavala, cak ni unofficial patch nije pomogao

[Duke of Earl]

Ma nije mi prokleta igra dala mira i išao sam malo ozbiljnije proprčkati po .cfg fileovima i uspio sam skoro potpuno eliminirati usporavanja.


Go to: [installation folder]...\Vampire\cfg\. All you have to do is open notepad, type the commands and save it as autoexec.cfg (beware not as autoexec.cfg.txt!) in that folder. The game will automatically find the autoexec.cfg file and run it. The commands are the following:

r_3dsky "0" [gets rid of sky animation and upper buildings]


Ovo je najviše pomoglo pa probaj i ti Admire.

[Windwalker]

Ajde, ajde... Meni je još na nekakvom Pentiumu 4 nepatchirana igra radila sasvim zadovoljavajuće.

[Kid A]

Ma nije mi prokleta igra dala mira i išao sam malo ozbiljnije proprčkati po .cfg fileovima i uspio sam skoro potpuno eliminirati usporavanja.


Go to: [installation folder]...\Vampire\cfg\. All you have to do is open notepad, type the commands and save it as autoexec.cfg (beware not as autoexec.cfg.txt!) in that folder. The game will automatically find the autoexec.cfg file and run it. The commands are the following:

r_3dsky "0" [gets rid of sky animation and upper buildings]


Ovo je najviše pomoglo pa probaj i ti Admire.
Uh.
Ovo ce mi valjda biti 12-ti put da je skidam sa Steama :D
Ajde probacu

[Duke of Earl]

Ajde, ajde... Meni je još na nekakvom Pentiumu 4 nepatchirana igra radila sasvim zadovoljavajuće.
Nema nikakve veze s snagom konfiguracije. Ljudima s i7 i GTX 260 su se dešavali isti problemi.

[Arbiter of Change]

Clan Quest Mod 3.0 za Bloodlines je vani. :)
http://www.moddb.com/mods/vtmb-clan-quest-mod

Highlights of Clan Quest Mod

12 totally new quests - one for each clan, two quests for evil players, a quest giving more context to the Kuei-Jin, and two other special scenarios! Each quest is written and constructed to match the clans' ambiance and feel; dig up dirt with the Nosferatu, work deals with the Ventrue.
Several Brand New Cut Scenes - Each one fully voice acted
A fully functional achievement system with 36 achievements. Track your progress in-game with an easy to use menu!
A new cut scene featuring VV's never before seen strip show.
Over 1,000 new dialogue lines, with main characters voiced by
semi-professional voice actors!
The new quests feature genuine WoD lore and facts; learn more about the Masquerade than ever.
Learn more about the most influential NPCs through new dialogue and quests
Revisit some of the more neglected locations in the original game, such as the Asp Hole and the Empire Hotel, now infused with new content
Meet 20 new NPCs including a members of the dreaded Assamite and Lasombra clans.
Powerful new quest rewards, including stat increases and even learning a fourth discipline!

[The Boz]

Lajka Boz.

[Outmind]

Dalje od mene s tim!

Ne da mi se po peti put igrat ffs...

[The Boz]

Tek peti!? LOL!

[Mirogamemasta]

Achivmenti. :thumbs1: Kao da nije dosta što ih svaka nova igra ima, amjo još sad staviti i u ove stare....

[sickpetey]

O_o. Mozda probam to sljedeci mjesec.

[Chupacabra]

Achivmenti. :thumbs1: Kao da nije dosta što ih svaka nova igra ima, amjo još sad staviti i u ove stare....

Meni recimo ne bi smetalo par achievementa (ali nemoguce teskih) za recimo, Arcanum, Morrowind, Deus Ex 1 ili Baldur's Gate. Cisto da imam novi razlog za prelazak igre, a mora biti tesko osvojiti achievement zbog osjecaja satisfakcije

[Feanor]

Instalira se opet. :3 Neznam s kim da igram. Smislit cu nesto dok se ne instalira. Slate muke.

[Mirogamemasta]

http://store.steampowered.com/app/2600/
Bloodlines za 5 jura. Tko nije igrao neka zgrabi odmah, iako sumnjam da nova generacija uopće želi igrati ovako nešto. :(
A mi stari smo je već prešli uzduž i poprijeko. :D

[Babitz]

Nisam ni zadnji put, a neću ni ovaj. Ne dam pare actismeću.

[Arbiter of Change]

The Final Nights 1.1 je izašao.
http://camarillaedition.darkbb.com/t851 ... oad-center (http://camarillaedition.darkbb.com/t851-the-final-nights-download-center)
Below are the features of VTM: The Final Nights.

All features included in Camarilla Edition Ver. 1.2

7 Brand New Clans
Assamite - Vizier caste, Scholars, Artists, and Assassins.
Baali - Evil demon worshippers, corrupters of souls.
Followers of Set - Usurpers, use serpent charms.
Ishtarri - African clan of gluttons, information gatherers.
Osebo - Violent warriors of Laibon, drawn to crime.
Salubri - Noble healers and warriors of the righteous.
Samedi - Rotting, stinking undead, control of death and decay.

5 Brand New Disciplines
- Daimoinon: Discipline of devil worship which specializes in the corrupting of souls and infernal combat.
- Obeah: Healing for both body and soul, greater control of the beast and other various effects.
- Quietus: Grants influence over the blood of others, Assassin based discipline known by the Assamites.
- Serpentis: The Setites core discipline, can use to charm others and take the form of their god Set.
- Thanatosis: A truly disturbing discipline which involves manipulating effects of death and decomposition.

The Humanity/Frenzy System
- You can drop your Humanity as low as 0, but will result in a game over.
- At Humanity level 3 or lower, being around the death of an innocent will lower your Humanity by 1 whether you actually did the killing or not. This excites the Beast.
- Taking 20 bashing/lethal damage in one hit -OR- taking 16 aggravated damage in one hit will result in a frenzy check.
- A frenzy timer constantly runs in the background. As your Humanity drops and you begin getting hungry, frenzy checks will become more frequent.

The Haggle System
- Monetary reward amounts from quests depend on Haggle feat.
- Bribe NPCs with money where amount depends on Haggle feat.
- Blackmail NPCs to earn extra money and XP.
- Prostitution costs depend on Haggle feat.
- All weapons, items, lore books, etc... have been adjusted.

The Inspection System
- Items only appear if Inspection feat is high enough.
- New items have been laid out in all 4 main hubs including armor and occult items.

The Weapon System
- All weapons have a use, no weapon is worthless.
- Advanced weapons are available to purchase much earlier.
- Complete rebalancing of every weapon.
- New weapons, skins, and sound effects.
- All vendors carry every type of ammo, new ammo capacities.

The Masquerade Violation System
- Completely new violation system created for TFN.
- Hunters spawned will be permanent NPCs on the map, until killed.
- Hunters spawn from violation level 1-4.

The Prostitution and Blood Doll System
- Haggle plays a large role in Prostitute cost while Seduction plays a minor role.
- New prostitute triggers for all 4 hubs making feeding much easier.
- Vanilla blood dolls work on random success to feed; while having a higher Seduction increases chances.
- All vanilla and CE-made blood dolls use same success chances regardless of hub.

The Music System
- All licensed music has been changed for all 6 clubs and other various places were music is played. (Song list in the end credits)
- All music in the clubs rotate so the same song never plays back to back. In most cases, 3 different songs play and a new song upon entry.
- All club music and voiced dialogue volumes were adjusted for better sound quality and understanding.
- Sunrise Diner now plays oldies music.
- New male/female feeding sounds.

Misc. Gameplay Changes
- The White Cloud has become a vendor of occult items.
- Research books are no longer found but bought from vendors.
- Stealth has been modified to be more realistic/harder.
- Discipline cost is based on a multiplier of 6 instead of 5.
- New opening scene with new audience and henchmen.
- Cheating no longer possible at the beginning with Jack.
- Changed most passwords in Santa Monica.

New NPCs
Akeem - A 400 year old Assamite Vizier who&#39;s in town to find relics.
Evan and Garrett - LaCroix&#39;s new personal bodyguards (cleaners).
Edgar Hirst - A powerful Hunter and mini boss for the Akeem quest.
Chastity&#39;s Team - Chastity now commands a small band of troops.
Gangrel/Toreador Antitribu - Two mini bosses in the SM warehouse.
Tremere Antitribu - Leader of the Bradbury Hotel.
Bach&#39;s Helpers - Bach now has a small personal squad of men.
Wraith - A wraith is summoned in Gallery Noir fight.

Enhanced/New Quests
- Enigmatic Encounters
Do a favor for Bertram and meet Akeem in the process.
- Inquisitors Know Too Much
This is a brand new quest given to the player by Akeem and involves Hunters in downtown LA.
- Hot Stripper Assassin Action
This quest has been remade in that now Chastity is the leader of a small squad of hunters.
- Society for the Preservation of Professors
This quest has been remade in that Grunfeld Bach has additional support in final battle.
- Out for Blood
The NPC Kindred were reworked and given full animations and visual discipline usage during this quest.
- Hunters Hunting
You can now ask Ash to stay behind or come with you and he also now carries a gun instead of using his fists.
- Poster Quest
The Poster Quest from Wesp&#39;s Unofficial Patches has been removed.

Models/Skins
- All PC models and skins have been heavily modified.
- Protean warform has been changed to be more wolf-like (Thanks Raptor_Red).
- All Research Books were reskinned.
- Several prostitutes were reskinned for variety.
- The Diner interior was reskinned and renamed to "Sunrise Diner".
- Various signs in SM were reskinned.
- Arthur Kilpatrick was reskinned.
- SWAT NPCs were reskinned.
- Hunters were reskinned.
- New TFN UI with red/blue blood counter.

Character Creation
- Indepth histories of each clan are presented in a two page report viewable during character creation.
- New background for the character sheet.

[Arbiter of Change]

Unofficial Patch 8.0 je izašao. Znate što slijedi. :)
http://www.patches-scrolls.de/vampire_bloodlines.php

v8.0 22.04.2012
----
+Restored many particles and idle animations, thanks to Entenschreck.
+Made werewolf damageable, thanks to Lenuska and also andagangrel89.
+Added note to Luckee Star to give some hint on werewolf easter eggs.
+Restored Sheriff conjuring Bat's Communion, thanks to Entenschreck.
+Dropped Sheriff sword on the roof, thanks MooCHa for missing models.
+Restored guard in the tutorial, thanks MalkyJeff and burgermeister.
+Corrected issues of new Vandal options and removed Skyeline trigger.
+Restored proper Giovanni spirit use and inventory disciplines slot.
+Increased cemetery gate health and restored basic patch spawn rates.
+Improved bobcat, forklift, Chinese mugger and Obfuscator sequences.
+Restored sewer-cabbie rat for Malkavians and wolf-ending easter egg.
+Enabled dynamic light for torch and fixed special Vesuvius meeting.
Removed most restored models, skins, icons and key binds from basic.
Reduced slime particles at temple and hid observatory debug switch.
Corrected Ocean House quests not closing if you refused the gallery.
Improved plus/basic Python code and fixed morphine quest state bug.
Fixed minor map problems and many dialogue details, thanks to Fabio.
Corrected Luckee Star hotel easter egg and Gimble intercom problem.
Re-fixed hostess bug and added crosshair to free view melee weapons.
Fixed bugs with Ash and Chastity quests and with the medical guard.
Added shoe textures to Ash, Ash double and Slater, thanks to MooCHa.
Restored eight sounds to Ocean House, two to SM and one to warrens.
Closed museum and Hallowbrook map holes and changed the doors there.
Fixed Tseng, guard, stripper, raver and more models, thanks MooCHa.

[The Boz]

Novi zvukovi u Ocean Houseu?
...
Shit.

[sickpetey]

Mrzio sam tu kucu na prvom prelasku.

[Chupacabra]

Evo, i ja odlucio zaigrati ovo jednom, kad vec svi hvalite, no imam problem. Instalirao sam official 1.2 patch pa zatim najnoviji unofficial patch, no igra crasha odmah nakon loading screena. Sta uciniti?

[Chupacabra]

Bump, cak ni Google ne pomaze :(

[Chupacabra]

Bump, netko mi je rekao da je unofficial 8 u beta fazi i da skinem raniji, pa sam skinuo 7. Opet crasha, zbilja više ne znam što da napravim.

[hacker]

Reinstall? Safe mode? Probaš instalirati bez official peča...

[Chupacabra]

Official patch je uključen u sve unofficiale od 6.0 pa nadalje, reinstall je proban već 3 puta, safe mode također ne pali.

[Arbiter of Change]

Bump, netko mi je rekao da je unofficial 8 u beta fazi i da skinem raniji, pa sam skinuo 7. Opet crasha, zbilja više ne znam što da napravim.
Nedavno sam završio igru sa beta UP8.1 beta 2 i nije bilo problema, tako da ti nije do toga. Imaš li inače problema sa Source igrama? Možda ti treba starija verzija DirectX-a uz trenutnu jer DirectX inače nije baš potpuno kumulativan.

[Chupacabra]

HL2 i Portal mi inače dosta štekaju i moram jako sniziti grafičke postavke i to, a tijekom instalacije VtMBa sam instalirao ponuđeni DirectX.

[Karlo_from_Bjelovar]

skini najnoviji directx i stavi u windows xp compatibility mode ako si na W7 i probaj kao admin pokrenut..

[Chupacabra]

WinXP. Ne moze DX 11 :)

[Arbiter of Change]

HL2 i Portal mi inače dosta štekaju i moram jako sniziti grafičke postavke i to, a tijekom instalacije VtMBa sam instalirao ponuđeni DirectX.
Mislim, jesi li ikada mogao igrati Bloodlines ili ti je to počelo sada kad si instalirao igru opet? Ako nikada nisi mogao igrati onda ti je komp možda preslab, ili ga igra očitava kao takvog, jer nije baš poznata po dobroj optimizaciji, tim više jer koristi ranu verziju Source enginea.

[Chupacabra]

Nikad nisam mogao igrati tako da mi je kompjuter vjerojatno preslab. A ništa, idem pogledati neki Let's Play na Youtubeu

[Delirium]

Ok, odlučio sam odigrati ovo. Šta moram znat, čega se trebam bojat i koje patcheve trebam, dovraga instalirat?
Also: Win7 (Ako to ima ikakvo značenje)

[Chupacabra]

Instaliraj igru zatim najnoviji Unofficial Patch by Wesp. Zatim- NEMOJ IGRATI KAO MALKAVIAN ILI NOSFERATU, to rezerviraj za drugi playthrough.

[Delirium]

ohhh yes. Multiple playthroughs make me moist.

Javim dojmove kad probam.

[Chupacabra]

Lakši klanovi su Gangrel, Brujah i Tremere.

E i da. Don't open it. :)

[Delirium]

Ja sam loot whore.
I have to open it.
:D

Malo ću si pročitat o tim klanovima prije nego krenem igrat.

[Chupacabra]

Ne, ne. Don't open it.

[Delirium]

Okej. Probat ću. Alim privlači me sve što bi moglo sadržavati shiny stuff.

[Chupacabra]

Nije ništa shiny. Don't open it.

[The Boz]

Open it. I dare you. You know you want to. What's the worst that could happen?

[Delirium]

Exactly. Finally someone who sees things my way. Gdje vam je avanturistički duh.
Mene zanima. A i uostalom. To je samo igra. Što je najgore što se može dogodit? Neki screamer?
Mislim da ću preživit.

[Chupacabra]

Open it. I dare you. You know you want to. What's the worst that could happen?

Kako možeš biti toliko zao?

[Delirium]

Gdje mogu nabavit onaj neki lijek za Mercutia? Tražio sam po Bolnici al tamo me napadaju jer sam nahranio neku ženu svojom krvlju.
Next stop Ocean House Hotel (Supposedly scary)

[Mirogamemasta]

Čekaj kasne noćne sate.Tamo je atmosfera za hororac u rangu Undyinga.

[hacker]

Gdje mogu nabavit onaj neki lijek za Mercutia? Tražio sam po Bolnici al tamo me napadaju jer sam nahranio neku ženu svojom krvlju.
Next stop Ocean House Hotel (Supposedly scary)

U bolnici na onom katu di je recepcija u jednoj sobi koja je zaključana...

[Delirium]

Muzika u ovoj igri :pray: :pray: :pray:


I zašto je Tremere tako OP u odnosu na moj prvi izbor? :O

Igra je 10x lakša sada :I

[Duke of Earl]

Zato jer je igra poludovršena, pa klase nisu baš balansirane.

[Delirium]

Plačem zbog činjenice da je ovdje autosave sustav užasan a ja apsolutno fejlam u kolko tolkoj koncentraciji pri igranju da sejvam. :(

[Xero]

Konzolašu.

[Delirium]

Ramazile su me nove igre koje imaju autosave sustav svakih cca 5 koraka.

Isti problem kao i kad igram Morrowind :/

[Arbiter of Change]

Quicksave na F5 i deri. Nadam se da si ulagao u bar neki borbeni skill. :eyebrows:

[Delirium]

Nosferatu Warrens.



Oh god why :(

[sickpetey]

Open it. I dare you. You know you want to. What's the worst that could happen?


Azijatski prelazak. Najjaci fail.

[str1k3r]

Well, it's that time of the year again. Molio bih nekakav dobar mod ili nešto. Pretty please?

[sickpetey]

Krvariš?

[Arbiter of Change]

Ima već duže vrijeme da je UP 8.5 vani, a ekipa je u međuvremenu ubacila i library level koji nikada nije bio dovršen kako spada. Soon™. :eyebrows:

http://www.patches-scrolls.com/vampire_bloodlines.php

[Duke of Earl]

Neki dobar mod za korištenje vatrenog oružja ? Ili je u unofficial patchu to već dovoljno dobro izbalansirano ?

[sickpetey]

Neznam meni su vatrena oruzja bila uvijek dovoljno dobra. Makar sam radje sa svojom Gangrel zenskom sve razbijao golim rukama :P

[Arbiter of Change]

Neki dobar mod za korištenje vatrenog oružja ? Ili je u unofficial patchu to već dovoljno dobro izbalansirano ?
Ne znam što točno misliš, ali uvijek ti ostaje Arsenal mod.
http://www.moddb.com/mods/lenusk

[Horny Devil]

It's time.

http://i.imgur.com/gWoZ4Zc.jpg

[melph]

planiram pocet igrat vampire masquerade: bloodlines, zanima me jel dobra igra, koje patcheve skinit i koju klasu izabrat.. :)

[Windwalker]

Jel dobra igra? :rotfl:
A kaj misliš?

Za patcheve ne znam, a za klasu si izaberi što želiš.
Možda ne Nosferatua ili Malkaviana za prvi prolaz.

[Xero]

Unoffical patch najnoviji skineš.

[Horny Devil]

planiram pocet igrat vampire masquerade: bloodlines, zanima me jel dobra igra, koje patcheve skinit i koju klasu izabrat.. :)
U biti ovo što su ljudi već rekli:

Unoffical patch najnoviji skineš.

Možda ne Nosferatua ili Malkaviana za prvi prolaz.
Ne zaboravi uložiti i u neki od combat skillova, zadnja trećina igre je najvećim dijelom razvaljivanje po glavi stanovnika.

Link za unoffical patch. (http://www.patches-scrolls.com/vampire_bloodlines.php)

[Arbiter of Change]

Eurogamer retrospektiva.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013- ... bloodlines (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-07-10-reanimated-the-story-of-vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines)

"It was dumped on the market at the worst possible time - most people didn't even know we were out," says Brian Mitsoda, the former lead writer on Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines "Both fans and the Troika devs are always going to wonder what the game could have been like with another six months."

Bloodlines was sent out to die. An unfinished game released prematurely by its publishers Activision, it didn't stand a chance on the shelves, especially alongside the hotly anticipated Half Life 2. But the commercial death of Bloodlines wasn't the end for the game. Thanks to a German analytical chemist with a passion for fixing broken things, Bloodlines has received not six months of additional work, but nine full years.

This is the story of two men who breathed life into the same game - one before it was born, the other after it died.

[Arbiter of Change]

It's time. Ovaj je dobar izgleda.
http://www.patches-scrolls.com/vampire_ ... nes.php#87 (http://www.patches-scrolls.com/vampire_bloodlines.php#87)

v8.7
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+Added a Sabbat option to endgameSand improved library level details.
+Turned library boss to LaSombra and made him appear at SM junkyard.
+Improved restored broadsword damage and made Dane items undroppable.
+Added dialogue to diner trap and moved Obfuscator to original spot.
+Set eight occult powerups to be unknown unless Research stat is met.
+Removed girl body from King's Way again and two Ash sewer switches.
+Made turnstile turn and restored Empire TV news, thanks vladdmaster.
+Fixed downtown elevators and added five arrows, thanks vladdmaster.
+Added credits to easter egg ending and moved Yugo near SM blueblood.
+Removed a Gangrel animation and fixed idle howling during dialogue.
+Fixed Mandarin dialogue not starting if Obfuscated and a Carson bug.
+Made Strauss give Fae Charm and Isaac Pearl or money when in basic.
+Placed two patrons into Lotus Blossom and lowered perceptions there.
+Restored several unused doors to tattoo shop and Hallowbrook lobby.
+Increased durations of level 3 Dementation and Dominate disciplines.

[Bartuc]

Kak im se da još uvijek peglati ovu igru kad je bila savršeno igriva i prije 30 unofficial patcheva :(

[StormCr0w]

Ja sam uvijek igrao bez pečeva :|

[Mirogamemasta]

Kak im se da još uvijek peglati ovu igru kad je bila savršeno igriva i prije 30 unofficial patcheva :(
That´s what I call dedication... Neka samo peglaju, mada novi nastavak nebi bio na odmet...

[Arbiter of Change]

The Final Nights mod verzija 1.2 je vani. Replay time? :)
http://www.moddb.com/mods/vtm-the-final-nights/downloads/vtm-the-final-nights-12-full


One of the first things you may notice in the title is that the "B" is missing from VTMB, this is not an accident. The Final Nights is an expansion to an otherwise flawless video game built upon the success of the Camarilla Edition series of mods. The "B" has been removed because this expansion can no longer bare the name Bloodlines as it is so far removed from the original game as to warrant the name change. The idea behind this expansion is, and always will be the notion of a completely new experience unlike we've seen so far. With 7 completely brand new clans, 5 new disciplines, extra quests, new NPCs, new game mechanics and new music, the features seem endless. All of this is being built upon the Camarilla Edition series incorporating such things as the blood timer system, pedestrian blood dolls, and the new combat system. Combined we feel the name Bloodlines must be removed from this game, and thus we now simply have "The Final Nights".

[Outmind]

Ne arbiteru, ne!!!

Ne opet pobogu!

[whiskey]

Slažem se, ne!!!! Dalje od mene silo necista!


Install :)

[Arbiter of Change]

Ne krivite mene. :)

All features included in Camarilla Edition Ver. 1.2

7 Brand New Clans
Assamite - Vizier caste, Scholars, Artists, and Assassins.
Baali - Evil demon worshippers, corrupters of souls.
Followers of Set - Usurpers, use serpent charms.
Ishtarri - African clan of gluttons, information gatherers.
Osebo - Violent warriors of Laibon, drawn to crime.
Salubri - Noble healers and warriors of the righteous.
Samedi - Rotting, stinking undead, control of death and decay.

5 Brand New Disciplines
- Daimoinon: Discipline of devil worship which specializes in the corrupting of souls and infernal combat.
- Obeah: Healing for both body and soul, greater control of the beast and other various effects.
- Quietus: Grants influence over the blood of others, Assassin based discipline known by the Assamites.
- Serpentis: The Setites core discipline, can use to charm others and take the form of their god Set.
- Thanatosis: A truly disturbing discipline which involves manipulating effects of death and decomposition.

The Humanity/Frenzy System
- You can drop your Humanity as low as 0, but will result in a game over.
- At Humanity level 3 or lower, being around the death of an innocent will lower your Humanity by 1 whether you actually did the killing or not. This excites the Beast.
- Taking 20 bashing/lethal damage in one hit -OR- taking 16 aggravated damage in one hit will result in a frenzy check.
- A frenzy timer constantly runs in the background. As your Humanity drops and you begin getting hungry, frenzy checks will become more frequent.

The Haggle System
- Monetary reward amounts from quests depend on Haggle feat.
- Bribe NPCs with money where amount depends on Haggle feat.
- Blackmail NPCs to earn extra money and XP.
- Prostitution costs depend on Haggle feat.
- All weapons, items, lore books, etc... have been adjusted.

The Inspection System
- Items only appear if Inspection feat is high enough.
- New items have been laid out in all 4 main hubs including armor and occult items.

The Weapon System
- All weapons have a use, no weapon is worthless.
- Advanced weapons are available to purchase much earlier.
- Complete rebalancing of every weapon.
- New weapons, skins, and sound effects.
- All vendors carry every type of ammo, new ammo capacities.

The Masquerade Violation System
- Completely new violation system created for TFN.
- Hunters spawned will be permanent NPCs on the map, until killed.
- Hunters spawn from violation level 1-4.

The Prostitution and Blood Doll System
- Haggle plays a large role in Prostitute cost while Seduction plays a minor role.
- New prostitute triggers for all 4 hubs making feeding much easier.
- Vanilla blood dolls work on random success to feed; while having a higher Seduction increases chances.
- All vanilla and CE-made blood dolls use same success chances regardless of hub.

The Music System
- All licensed music has been changed for all 6 clubs and other various places were music is played. (Song list in the end credits)
- All music in the clubs rotate so the same song never plays back to back. In most cases, 3 different songs play and a new song upon entry.
- All club music and voiced dialogue volumes were adjusted for better sound quality and understanding.
- Sunrise Diner now plays oldies music.
- New male/female feeding sounds.

Misc. Gameplay Changes
- The White Cloud has become a vendor of occult items.
- Research books are no longer found but bought from vendors.
- Stealth has been modified to be more realistic/harder.
- Discipline cost is based on a multiplier of 6 instead of 5.
- New opening scene with new audience and henchmen.
- Cheating no longer possible at the beginning with Jack.
- Changed most passwords in Santa Monica.

New NPCs
Akeem - A 400 year old Assamite Vizier who's in town to find relics.
Evan and Garrett - LaCroix's new personal bodyguards (cleaners).
Edgar Hirst - A powerful Hunter and mini boss for the Akeem quest.
Chastity's Team - Chastity now commands a small band of troops.
Gangrel/Toreador Antitribu - Two mini bosses in the SM warehouse.
Tremere Antitribu - Leader of the Bradbury Hotel.
Bach's Helpers - Bach now has a small personal squad of men.
Wraith - A wraith is summoned in Gallery Noir fight.

Enhanced/New Quests
- Enigmatic Encounters
Do a favor for Bertram and meet Akeem in the process.
- Inquisitors Know Too Much
This is a brand new quest given to the player by Akeem and involves Hunters in downtown LA.
- Hot Stripper Assassin Action
This quest has been remade in that now Chastity is the leader of a small squad of hunters.
- Society for the Preservation of Professors
This quest has been remade in that Grunfeld Bach has additional support in final battle.
- Out for Blood
The NPC Kindred were reworked and given full animations and visual discipline usage during this quest.
- Hunters Hunting
You can now ask Ash to stay behind or come with you and he also now carries a gun instead of using his fists.
- Poster Quest
The Poster Quest from Wesp's Unofficial Patches has been removed.

Models/Skins
- All PC models and skins have been heavily modified.
- Protean warform has been changed to be more wolf-like (Thanks Raptor_Red).
- All Research Books were reskinned.
- Several prostitutes were reskinned for variety.
- The Diner interior was reskinned and renamed to "Sunrise Diner".
- Various signs in SM were reskinned.
- Arthur Kilpatrick was reskinned.
- SWAT NPCs were reskinned.
- Hunters were reskinned.
- New TFN UI with red/blue blood counter.

Character Creation
- Indepth histories of each clan are presented in a two page report viewable during character creation.
- New background for the character sheet.

[Arbiter of Change]

UP 9.0 je vani. Just saying. Kao i obično, stvari sa + su samo u plus verziji jer imate izbor koju ćete instalirati.
http://www.patches-scrolls.de/patch/4647/61625

+Added Heather to sewers for Nosferatu and improved new idle sounds.
+Made stealth killing Johnny possible when using Obfuscate level 5.
+Added possibility to keep the quick Nosferatu in the warrens alive.
+Cleaned Mercurio's apartment after a time and fixed a SM map hole.
+Added seven missing infobar sounds and created seven infobar icons.
+Restored drug stealing quest of Trip for one XP and Finance bonus.
+Removed Blood Guardian waterspray and made Lily's purse unsellable.
+Fixed bug with casting Bloodbuff breaking off lockpicking attempt.
+Raised high firearms book requirement to 9 and updated travel maps.
+Made Hallowbrook atrium barrels solid and enemies navigate better.
+Restored Justicar to Camarilla ending and Jack's face for LaSombra.
+Moved fire axe to crashing elevator top and fatguy to atrium exit.
+Restored unused models to Society of Leopold, warehouse and Zhao's.
+Changed library to combat zone and fixed rotunda decal flickering.
+Repaired hearing warehouse boss conversation twice and some floats.
+Made Nadia react to zombies damaging player and removed fake door.
+Gave Occult Nut a Scholarship bonus and fixed new discipline lines.
+Fixed icons at Giovanni mansion and made Bruno react to feed-kill.

Added modified trackerscheme into Extras to change Malkavian fonts.
Repaired Carson, Knox, Damsel, Yukie, Regent and Hatter dialogues.
Fixed two inverted textures and renamed Sheriff's warform Behemoth.
Restored three King's Way headrunner for Nosferatu and Malkavians.
Lowered McFly's float rate and fixed references to missing Heather.
Added documents to Extras to reveal where restorations originated.
Attached floor number to Empire Arms suite names in hotel computer.
Fixed three wrong loop sounds and moved a Mandarin line elsewhere.
Corrected some bug fixes that were lost in 8.9, thanks vladdmaster.
Restored blast door to Giovanni crypt and fixed tutorial door bug.
Improved Nosferatu Nines intro and map details, thanks vladdmaster.
Fixed sewer sound transitions on SM, Hollywood and Chinatown hubs.
Corrected two bad Lotus Blossom icons and lowered Skyeline humming.

[Mirogamemasta]

http://www.pcgamer.com/antitribu-mod-adds-seven-new-clans-to-vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines/

Vrijeme za reinstall! :) Zašto dan nema jedno 104 sata? NEEEEEEEE

[cham3leon]

I neki jebački mod za Deus Ex je izašao neki dan, čitao sam na RPS-u.